M1 Garands for sale
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Re: M1 Garands for sale
I never could figure out how to get past CMP's complicated forms to get one delivered.
For those that say it is easy, easier said than done for me.
For those that say it is easy, easier said than done for me.
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Just make sure you have all of your paperwork before you drive to AL or OH. It would be bad to waste a day driving and not get anything.
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what paperwork do you need?Jff24Gordn wrote:Just make sure you have all of your paperwork before you drive to AL or OH. It would be bad to waste a day driving and not get anything.
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No shit! It's like a Chinese puzzle!Dave1965 wrote:what paperwork do you need?Jff24Gordn wrote:Just make sure you have all of your paperwork before you drive to AL or OH. It would be bad to waste a day driving and not get anything.
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You have to shoot in a garand match or have military experience.
Must join an affiliated club with the CMP
http://www.odcmp.com
Must join an affiliated club with the CMP
http://www.odcmp.com
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This is what pissed me off last time. Found a club to join but was $100 a year and not accepting new members.Next wrote:You have to shoot in a garand match or have military experience.
Must join an affiliated club with the CMP
http://www.odcmp.com
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Wish they would find a bunch of M1 Carbines as well
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Wish people who bought them would go into details of purchase for us morons who never have. When I call them I'm put on hold with no answer.
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This is the whole kit and kaboodle.
REQUIREMENTS FOR PURCHASE
By law, the CMP can sell surplus military firearms, ammunition, parts and other items only to members of CMP affiliated clubs who are also U.S. citizens, over 18 years of age and who are legally eligible to purchase a firearm.
PROOF OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP:
You must provide a copy of a U.S. birth certificate, passport, proof of naturalization, or any official government document (When using a military ID to prove citizenship, must be an E9 or above) that shows birth in the U.S. or states citizenship as U.S.
PROOF OF AGE:
You must provide proof of age. Usually proof of citizenship also provides proof of age. In those cases where it may not, a driver’s license is sufficient.
MEMBERSHIP IN CMP AFFILIATED ORGANIZATION:
You must provide a copy of your current membership card or other proof of membership. This requirement cannot be waived. The CMP currently has over 2,000 affiliated organizations located in many parts of the country. CMP Club Member Certification Form- If your CMP affiliated club does not issue individual membership cards, please have the club fill out the CMP Club Member Certification Form and return it with your order.
Membership in many of these organizations costs $25.00 or less and can be accomplished online. A listing of affiliated organizations can be found by clicking on our Club Search web page at http://ct.thecmp.org/app/v1/index.php?do=clubSearch. If you have any difficulty in locating a club, please contact the CMP at 256-835-8455 or by emailing CMP Customer Service. We will find one for you. In addition to shooting clubs, the CMP also has several special affiliates. Membership in these organizations satisfies our requirement for purchase. These special affiliates include: Congressionally chartered veterans' organizations such as the VFW, AL, DAV, MCL, etc. U.S. Military services (active or reserves), National Guard, to include retirees. Professional 501(c)3 law enforcement organizations and associations such as the FOP, NAPO, NSA, etc. The Garand Collector's Association is a CMP Affiliated Club. You can download a Garand Collector's Association Application Form.
Note: Club membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts, and ammunition.
Club membership is NOT required for instructional publications or videos or CMP memorabilia.
MARKSMANSHIP OR OTHER FIREARMS RELATED ACTIVITY:
You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures. Your marksmanship related activity does not have to be with highpower rifles; it can be with smallbore rifles, pistols, air guns or shotguns. Proof of marksmanship participation can be provided by documenting any of the following:
Current or past military service.
Current or past law enforcement service
Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor).
Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status.
Concealed Carry License.
Firearms Owner Identification Cards that included live fire training. - FFL or C&R license.
Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included live fire training.
Certification from range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity. Complete the CMP Marksmanship Form to certify your range firing and the required marksmanship related activity for an individual to purchase from the CMP.
No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60. Proof of club membership and citizenship required for all ages. NOTE: Proof of marksmanship activity is not required for purchase of ammunition, parts, publications or memorabilia.
BE LEGALLY ELIGIBLE TO PURCHASE A FIREARM:
The information you supply on your application will be submitted by the CMP to the FBI National Instant Criminal Check System (NICS) to verify you are not prohibited by Federal, State or Local law from acquiring or possessing a rifle. Your signature on the Purchaser Certification portion of the purchase application authorizes the CMP to initiate the NICS check and authorizes the FBI to inform CMP of the result. IMPORTANT: If your State or locality requires you to first obtain a license, permit, or Firearms Owner ID card in order to possess or receive a rifle, you must enclose a photocopy of your license, permit, or card with the application for purchase.
IMPORTANT:
If your State or locality requires you to first obtain a certificate, license, permit, or Firearms Owner ID card in order to possess or receive a rifle, you must enclose a photocopy of your certificate, license, permit, or card with the application for purchase. Rifle shipments to NY and NJ must be made to a state licensed dealer. You must provide a copy of the dealer’s license with your order form. Rifle shipments to CA must be made to a State licensed dealer or may be made to individual homes, providing that a CA Certificate of Eligibility and a Curio and Relic License are provided. Rifle shipments to CT must be made to licensed or dealer or may be shipped directly to the customer if a C&R license is provided.
As a result of CT Bill 1160 and Bill 13-220 , which revised CT Bill 1160, all CT customers purchasing rifles to be delivered in CT must have the rifle shipped to a CT licensed dealer or must provide us with a copy of their current Type 3 (C&R) FFL license. We can ship directly to a customer's home if they possess a C&R license.
NY, NJ and CT customers who have already mailed their rifle orders to CMP should provide custserve@thecmp.org with dealer information or order cancellation instructions. Information can also be faxed to 256-835-3527 or mailed to CMP Customer Service, (Attn: FFL Order), 1401 Commerce Blvd., Anniston, AL 36207.
REQUIREMENTS FOR PURCHASE
By law, the CMP can sell surplus military firearms, ammunition, parts and other items only to members of CMP affiliated clubs who are also U.S. citizens, over 18 years of age and who are legally eligible to purchase a firearm.
PROOF OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP:
You must provide a copy of a U.S. birth certificate, passport, proof of naturalization, or any official government document (When using a military ID to prove citizenship, must be an E9 or above) that shows birth in the U.S. or states citizenship as U.S.
PROOF OF AGE:
You must provide proof of age. Usually proof of citizenship also provides proof of age. In those cases where it may not, a driver’s license is sufficient.
MEMBERSHIP IN CMP AFFILIATED ORGANIZATION:
You must provide a copy of your current membership card or other proof of membership. This requirement cannot be waived. The CMP currently has over 2,000 affiliated organizations located in many parts of the country. CMP Club Member Certification Form- If your CMP affiliated club does not issue individual membership cards, please have the club fill out the CMP Club Member Certification Form and return it with your order.
Membership in many of these organizations costs $25.00 or less and can be accomplished online. A listing of affiliated organizations can be found by clicking on our Club Search web page at http://ct.thecmp.org/app/v1/index.php?do=clubSearch. If you have any difficulty in locating a club, please contact the CMP at 256-835-8455 or by emailing CMP Customer Service. We will find one for you. In addition to shooting clubs, the CMP also has several special affiliates. Membership in these organizations satisfies our requirement for purchase. These special affiliates include: Congressionally chartered veterans' organizations such as the VFW, AL, DAV, MCL, etc. U.S. Military services (active or reserves), National Guard, to include retirees. Professional 501(c)3 law enforcement organizations and associations such as the FOP, NAPO, NSA, etc. The Garand Collector's Association is a CMP Affiliated Club. You can download a Garand Collector's Association Application Form.
Note: Club membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts, and ammunition.
Club membership is NOT required for instructional publications or videos or CMP memorabilia.
MARKSMANSHIP OR OTHER FIREARMS RELATED ACTIVITY:
You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures. Your marksmanship related activity does not have to be with highpower rifles; it can be with smallbore rifles, pistols, air guns or shotguns. Proof of marksmanship participation can be provided by documenting any of the following:
Current or past military service.
Current or past law enforcement service
Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor).
Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status.
Concealed Carry License.
Firearms Owner Identification Cards that included live fire training. - FFL or C&R license.
Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included live fire training.
Certification from range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity. Complete the CMP Marksmanship Form to certify your range firing and the required marksmanship related activity for an individual to purchase from the CMP.
No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60. Proof of club membership and citizenship required for all ages. NOTE: Proof of marksmanship activity is not required for purchase of ammunition, parts, publications or memorabilia.
BE LEGALLY ELIGIBLE TO PURCHASE A FIREARM:
The information you supply on your application will be submitted by the CMP to the FBI National Instant Criminal Check System (NICS) to verify you are not prohibited by Federal, State or Local law from acquiring or possessing a rifle. Your signature on the Purchaser Certification portion of the purchase application authorizes the CMP to initiate the NICS check and authorizes the FBI to inform CMP of the result. IMPORTANT: If your State or locality requires you to first obtain a license, permit, or Firearms Owner ID card in order to possess or receive a rifle, you must enclose a photocopy of your license, permit, or card with the application for purchase.
IMPORTANT:
If your State or locality requires you to first obtain a certificate, license, permit, or Firearms Owner ID card in order to possess or receive a rifle, you must enclose a photocopy of your certificate, license, permit, or card with the application for purchase. Rifle shipments to NY and NJ must be made to a state licensed dealer. You must provide a copy of the dealer’s license with your order form. Rifle shipments to CA must be made to a State licensed dealer or may be made to individual homes, providing that a CA Certificate of Eligibility and a Curio and Relic License are provided. Rifle shipments to CT must be made to licensed or dealer or may be shipped directly to the customer if a C&R license is provided.
As a result of CT Bill 1160 and Bill 13-220 , which revised CT Bill 1160, all CT customers purchasing rifles to be delivered in CT must have the rifle shipped to a CT licensed dealer or must provide us with a copy of their current Type 3 (C&R) FFL license. We can ship directly to a customer's home if they possess a C&R license.
NY, NJ and CT customers who have already mailed their rifle orders to CMP should provide custserve@thecmp.org with dealer information or order cancellation instructions. Information can also be faxed to 256-835-3527 or mailed to CMP Customer Service, (Attn: FFL Order), 1401 Commerce Blvd., Anniston, AL 36207.
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So what affiliation do you all belong to in order to purchase a rifle??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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https://ct.thecmp.org/app/v1/index.php?do=clubSearchToddstang wrote:So what affiliation do you all belong to in order to purchase a rifle??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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My suggestion is to join the Garand Collectors Association.Toddstang wrote:So what affiliation do you all belong to in order to purchase a rifle??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Gunsmokin wrote:Chrystal clear.
well not really, for example, proof of affiliate organization includes active, reserves or retired etc. Does it include prior military? If so that counts for both organization and marksmanship.
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exactly as I said, you can now join online for $25 and have your information released to the CMP so they can verify.Gunsmokin wrote:My suggestion is to join the Garand Collectors Association.Toddstang wrote:So what affiliation do you all belong to in order to purchase a rifle??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Easy Peasy
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That's what I needed to know.Dave1965 wrote:exactly as I said, you can now join online for $25 and have your information released to the CMP so they can verify.Gunsmokin wrote:My suggestion is to join the Garand Collectors Association.Toddstang wrote:So what affiliation do you all belong to in order to purchase a rifle??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Easy Peasy
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So, I have very little knowledge about M1's, the luck of the draw for a field grade and price, also, does it matter which manufacturer makes a better product?
Re: M1 Garands for sale
If only they were guaranteed to be .308
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Re: M1 Garands for sale
About like everything else, would you rather have WINCHESTER or SPRINGFIELD. Most people say WINCHESTER based on name recognition and scarcity. They bring more money because they only made 500k rifles during WW2 (Only Springfield and Winchester made them during WW2), whereas Springfield made some 3.5 Million rifles.Toecutter1978 wrote:So, I have very little knowledge about M1's, the luck of the draw for a field grade and price, also, does it matter which manufacturer makes a better product?
After WW2, they were made by H&R, IHC (International Harvester) and Springfield.
Springfield made like 600k +, IHC around 330K, and H&R around 410k+ if my memory is right. They offered some IHC this year and those things didn't last long. A friend of mine here in town got one and it was one of the reworked ones, it was beautiful.
So since there are over 4 million Springfields produced and around 410K H&R produced, I would say your chances of a Springfield to H&R on any given day is 10 to 1. Better chances if you go get it. And of course it all depends on what conditions they have in what brands. I would spend the extra 100 bucks to get out of Field Grade personally and into Service Grade.
Having put together a Garand from scratch, trying to buy Winchester parts for a Winchester receiver is much more expensive than Springfield. There are lots of parts out there but people price them accordingly. It was fun to do and didn't take much except finding the parts at an acceptable price point I wanted to pay to keep the rifle affordable. Two years ago I traded for a solid ww2 Springfield and later ended up getting around 2300 for it because its parts were all ww2 correct.