Potentially bad news for the Sig brace

Post by **rustynuts** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:42 pm

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/end-sig-brace/

Post by **PDM** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:45 pm

I've always been surprised that these are legal anyway.

Post by **WLJ** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:46 pm

I've always said what the ATF can give with a letter can be taken with a letter.

Post by **rustynuts** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:48 pm

WLJ wrote:I've always said what the ATF can give with a letter can be taken with a letter.

All it takes is a switch in the persons writing the letter.

Post by **Ar-Rob** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:55 pm

Bullshit

Post by **shelbygoat** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:24 pm

Read the text of the article. Has really nothing to do with the sig brace on an AR.

Post by **rustynuts** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:29 pm

I think the point he's trying to make is that if it can be deemed a short barreled shotgun if the user shoulders the firearm, then an AR could be deemed an SBR if the user shoulders it.

Post by **Toddstang** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:31 pm

The shotgun brace is what f**ked this up. Why the hell would you put this on any shotgun?
Stupid!

Post by **justang1997** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:45 pm

I wish I would see as much effort that is spent skirting the law, spent trying to get it changed.

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gaston_kalash · Post by **gaston_kalash** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:54 pm

I think the atf was referring more to the shotguns barrel then the brace. Since when can you have a non NFA 12 gauge pistol?

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gaston_kalash · Post by **gaston_kalash** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:58 pm

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heres the scattergun in question.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/ssracer02 · Post by **ssracer** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:20 pm

gaston_kalash wrote:I think the atf was referring more to the shotguns barrel then the brace. Since when can you have a non NFA 12 gauge pistol?

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Yeah. Pretty sure any pistol with over a 1/2" bore is a no go...gotta be a SBS or AOW

SpyderArms · Post by **SpyderArms** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:20 pm

If it has no shoulder stock on it, it is not a shotgun! It is a firearm.

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Post by **RecoilSensitive** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:57 am

then what about all the pistol grip SBS

Post by **RecoilSensitive** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:58 am

even without the brace that is still a SBS

Post by **jackalo626** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:04 pm

rustynuts wrote:
WLJ wrote:I've always said what the ATF can give with a letter can be taken with a letter.
All it takes is a switch in the persons writing the letter.

Yep

Post by **guncrank1** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:41 am

No the Manufacture is the one screwing up.
Not the ATF not anybody else.

They are trying to market a SBS without the required paper work.
The SIG brace is a AR pistol device not for a SBS.
As a shotgun is not a pistol by law and definition.

gaston_kalash · Post by **gaston_kalash** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:20 am

guncrank1 wrote:No the Manufacture is the one screwing up.
Not the ATF not anybody else.

They are trying to market a SBS without the required paper work.
The SIG brace is a AR pistol device not for a SBS.
As a shotgun is not a pistol by law and definition.

^^^^this^^^^^^

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Harb · Post by **Harb** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:13 pm

Some people...

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