Import ban on 7N6 surplus 5.45x39?

[ChopperDoc]

Rumors have been circulating that last two days that the BATF has stopped the importation of steel core 5.45×39 ammo. After reading this news on social media, I’m sure many of you fired up your browser and gave Google a thorough workout trying to find a copy of the official BATF letter that gives the smack down to cheap 7N6 ammo… and like me you were probably unable to find such a letter.

That’s probably because such a letter doesn't currently exist.

The rumor stems from an importer who had filed a Form 6 to bring in a shipment of 7N6 surplus ammo from Russia. The form approval went well past 2 weeks, which is the normal time frame for a Form 6 to be approved by the BATF. The importer emailed the BATF to find out what was going on with this particular import request and received this email response back.



More at the link https://www.thebangswitch.com/import-ba ... 6-5-45x39/

[guncrank1]

A former gun dealer submitted a 5.45x39 pistol to the ATF about a year ago. This is the same guy that was arrested for carrying a suppressed rifle in TN and had several other run ends with the police.

He had stated the he wanted to get 5.45x39 steel core outlawed, because " he could"
And to make his stock of ammo worth more.

[ChopperDoc]

NRA made comments on this back in 2012 it seems.

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/artic ... ec-31.aspx

And a current statement from them on this issue:

We oppose ATF's decision on this issue but fixing it is going to require a change in the statute. We can certainly argue that it deserves a sporting purposes designation like M855, but they could just turn around and revoke the M855 exception.

[Toddstang]

http://www.classicfirearms.com/russian- ... ign=4-3-14

[Ulwembu]

I've visited two major gun manfacturers in KY yesterday and both came up with the same. One of them was severely pissed off as he had several private guns in this caliber.

[jdf747emt]

Ok, that explains why classic arms thinks this is the last batch they will recieve.

[gaston_kalash]

to help stop this check out my thread called the boiling frog and the atf.

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[ChopperDoc]

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2014/ ... ition.html

[Wyldman]

Bullshit.

[ssracer]

So by allowing the import of one gun in 2011 they are now able to ban the ammunition.

[gaston_kalash]

The atf can ban pretty much anything with a stroke of a pin and it needs to stop please right your congress!

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[Tyler]

So by allowing the import of one gun in 2011 they are now able to ban the ammunition.

And the gun was never imported and it's unclear if it ever even made it to production.

[1fastmach1]

Someone told me Olympian arms made a 5.45 pistola? I never looked into it though.

[Wyldman]

Just more of their capricious bullshit! They change their minds as often as they change their underwear. 200 different agents with 200 different thoughts on how to interpret a badly worded law. And it's all deliberate.

They love creating felons with the swipe of a pen.

[gaston_kalash]

Someone told me Olympian arms made a 5.45 pistola? I never looked into it though.

Olympic arms is the company that got the 7.62×39mm surplus banned from import by making a ar pistol in 7.62×39. Some polish company is what got 5.45 banned its in the ATF letter.

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[gaston_kalash]

The company is Fabryka Bronie Radom, Model Onyks 89S, 5.45x39 caliber semi-automatic pistol, which was approved for importation into the United States in November 2011.

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[gaston_kalash]

[quote="Wyldman"]Just more of their capricious bullshit! They change their minds as often as they change their underwear. 200 different agents with 200 different thoughts on how to interpret a badly worded law. And it's all deliberate.

They love creating felons with the swipe of a pen.[/quote
Amen

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[Tyler]

The company is Fabryka Bronie Radom, Model Onyks 89S, 5.45x39 caliber semi-automatic pistol, which was approved for importation into the United States in November 2011.

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Yep, they submitted for a pistol that didn't and doesn't exist.

That was 3 years ago. I think there's something else at play here. This doesn't pass the sniff test.

[guncrank1]

There are commercially made 5.45x39 AK pistols on the market.

[gaston_kalash]

There are commercially made 5.45x39 AK pistols on the market.

this is true but none of them were mentioned in the letter. Either way it still needs to be repealed along with all the other BS regulations they have. 922r compliance come on how stupid is that?

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[Toddstang]

OUCH!

http://www.classicfirearms.com/russian- ... gn=4-12-14


ATF Import Ban on Russian-made 7N6 5.45x39 Military Surplus Ammo

This is a developing story and we will update this page as we learn more.

We indicated in early April that we thought that we had received the last shipment of this ammunition allowed to be imported into the country and as such now have this Russian 7N6 5.45x39 Ammo In-Stock. We do not know when or if the ATF will ban the sale of this ammo, but it has banned any future importation under The Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA) Section 921(a)(17)(B)(i).

More information below. Click here to order some of this 7N6 5.45x39 ammunition while supplies last.

[Dave1965]

Copes guy today said they got a letter from ATF that FFL's could no longer sell it to the public, just military or LEO?

Said a whole boat load of it on the water right now. I guess if you are not an FFL and sells ammo, you could do with it whatever you want.

[guncrank1]

Copes guy today said they got a letter from ATF that FFL's could no longer sell it to the public, just military or LEO?

Said a whole boat load of it on the water right now. I guess if you are not an FFL and sells ammo, you could do with it whatever you want.

Kentucky law, like federal law, prohibits any person from knowingly manufacturing, selling, delivering, transferring, or importing armor-piercing ammunition, defined as a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium, with exceptions for certain sporting shot and industrial materials.1 This prohibition does not apply to members of the U.S. Armed Forces or law enforcement acting within the scope of their duties, and does not prohibit licensed gun dealers from possessing the ammunition for the purpose of receiving and transferring it to these exempt individuals.2
Kentucky law also prohibits a person from being armed with a firearm loaded with armor-piercing ammunition or flanged ammunition during the commission of a felony, or in flight immediately thereafter.3 Flanged ammunition is defined as ammunition with a soft lead core and sharp flanges that are designed to expand upon impact.4