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Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:48 pm
by Niceguy
Anyone done one of these? The kits look pretty dummy proof. I'm thinking about getting a rimfire can kit. I REEEEEEEEEALLY miss having one. Apparently most are getting their paperwork back in a month or two instead of a year...

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Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:50 pm
by iron369
Niceguy wrote:Anyone done one of these? The kits look pretty dummy proof. I'm thinking about getting a rimfire can kit. I REEEEEEEEEALLY miss having one. Apparently most are getting their paperwork back in a month or two instead of a year...

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I’ve done several but not recently and not using a kit so I’m not sure how helpful I can be

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:26 pm
by Niceguy
iron369 wrote:
Niceguy wrote:Anyone done one of these? The kits look pretty dummy proof. I'm thinking about getting a rimfire can kit. I REEEEEEEEEALLY miss having one. Apparently most are getting their paperwork back in a month or two instead of a year...

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I’ve done several but not recently and not using a kit so I’m not sure how helpful I can be
Were you happy with them?

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Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:28 pm
by Niceguy
https://www.quietbore.com/product/22lr-form1-kit/

I'm planning on this one.

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Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:36 pm
by plumber_bob
I've been temped to do it, but still on the fence.
Worried about not liking it when the whole thing is done. But I want one for .223.

pb

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:43 pm
by Niceguy
plumber_bob wrote:I've been temped to do it, but still on the fence.
Worried about not liking it when the whole thing is done. But I want one for .223.

pb
For the price, the simplicity of the kits and (most importantly of all) how short the wait is I feel like it is probably worth it. Hell, all you do is drill a few holes in the kit and they have a jig where you can just do it with a drill. They even include the drill bit.

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Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:48 pm
by Dave1965
whats all this drilling about??

I thought you just screwed it on the gun and fired a couple rounds thru it.

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:52 pm
by Niceguy
Dave1965 wrote:whats all this drilling about??

I thought you just screwed it on the gun and fired a couple rounds thru it.
Yep, that's why the rimfire and 5.56 both come in 1/2x28. So you can screw it on an AR and they work faster...

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Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:55 pm
by iron369
Niceguy wrote:
iron369 wrote:
Niceguy wrote:Anyone done one of these? The kits look pretty dummy proof. I'm thinking about getting a rimfire can kit. I REEEEEEEEEALLY miss having one. Apparently most are getting their paperwork back in a month or two instead of a year...

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I’ve done several but not recently and not using a kit so I’m not sure how helpful I can be
Were you happy with them?

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Some better than others. Just like most things, it’s worth it if you invest the money and time. You’ll get better results with clipped baffles rather than just drilling a hole.

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:05 pm
by plumber_bob
I see the 5.56/30 comes with both thread adapters.
Can you just buy and extra set of cups and swap back and forth without needing 2 forms?

pb

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:07 pm
by plumber_bob
Also I think I like that they won't send the kit until you get the form 1 back.
If they sent it right away I might not be able to hold out that long before I start to work on it! LOL

pb

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:07 pm
by plumber_bob
Helps keep honest. ;-)

pb

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:26 pm
by iron369
plumber_bob wrote:Also I think I like that they won't send the kit until you get the form 1 back.
If they sent it right away I might not be able to hold out that long before I start to work on it! LOL

pb
That’s a new thing. Quietbore got in a bunch of ATF trouble a couple months ago.

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:29 pm
by iron369
plumber_bob wrote:I see the 5.56/30 comes with both thread adapters.
Can you just buy and extra set of cups and swap back and forth without needing 2 forms?

pb
It has to be designated one or the other on the form 1 and inscribed on the tube. You can’t have both adapters because once a round is fired, it is considered completed and a change in configuration would have to go through a flat/SOT07 if I recall correctly. That is, of course, you talk about it in public forums

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:41 pm
by plumber_bob
iron369 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:29 pm
plumber_bob wrote:I see the 5.56/30 comes with both thread adapters.
Can you just buy and extra set of cups and swap back and forth without needing 2 forms?

pb
It has to be designated one or the other on the form 1 and inscribed on the tube. You can’t have both adapters because once a round is fired, it is considered completed and a change in configuration would have to go through a flat/SOT07 if I recall correctly. That is, of course, you talk about it in public forums
I was wondering because I was hoping to have one can fits all for what I had but that ain't doable I see.

So it's one can for each caliber then. Right?

pb

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:44 pm
by Next
Niceguy wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:28 pm
https://www.quietbore.com/product/22lr-form1-kit/

I'm planning on this one.

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How is the quality on something like that? Hate to go through the red tape and it sucks. Seems about the same cost as other cans. What is the advantage besides less wait?

Next

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:50 pm
by Rem700
Neighbor just did one and I think got it back in about 45 days. His was a 30 cal I think.

I see them advertising all the time. They are great at removing sediment from fuel too lol

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:52 pm
by plumber_bob
Here's a bit of a review on a 9mm quiet bore can.



pb

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:53 pm
by Rem700
plumber_bob wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:41 pm
iron369 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:29 pm
plumber_bob wrote:I see the 5.56/30 comes with both thread adapters.
Can you just buy and extra set of cups and swap back and forth without needing 2 forms?

pb
It has to be designated one or the other on the form 1 and inscribed on the tube. You can’t have both adapters because once a round is fired, it is considered completed and a change in configuration would have to go through a flat/SOT07 if I recall correctly. That is, of course, you talk about it in public forums
I was wondering because I was hoping to have one can fits all for what I had but that ain't doable I see.

So it's one can for each caliber then. Right?

pb
Correct me if I’m wrong but can’t you do a 30 cal can and shoot 5.56 through it? Might not be as effective but would work right?

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:54 pm
by Rem700
I would like a 9mm and 30 cal for my birthday please and thank you!

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:03 pm
by iron369
plumber_bob wrote:
iron369 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:29 pm
plumber_bob wrote:I see the 5.56/30 comes with both thread adapters.
Can you just buy and extra set of cups and swap back and forth without needing 2 forms?

pb
It has to be designated one or the other on the form 1 and inscribed on the tube. You can’t have both adapters because once a round is fired, it is considered completed and a change in configuration would have to go through a flat/SOT07 if I recall correctly. That is, of course, you talk about it in public forums
I was wondering because I was hoping to have one can fits all for what I had but that ain't doable I see.

So it's one can for each caliber then. Right?

pb
There’s tons of mounting options that would work. I didn’t look at the kit you were talking about. If it has an end cap and just muzzle devices the have external threads that match you end cap , you could file for a 30cal and use it on a 223

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:05 pm
by iron369
iron369 wrote:
plumber_bob wrote:
iron369 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:29 pm
plumber_bob wrote:I see the 5.56/30 comes with both thread adapters.
Can you just buy and extra set of cups and swap back and forth without needing 2 forms?

pb
It has to be designated one or the other on the form 1 and inscribed on the tube. You can’t have both adapters because once a round is fired, it is considered completed and a change in configuration would have to go through a flat/SOT07 if I recall correctly. That is, of course, you talk about it in public forums
I was wondering because I was hoping to have one can fits all for what I had but that ain't doable I see.

So it's one can for each caliber then. Right?

pb
There’s tons of mounting options that would work. I didn’t look at the kit you were talking about. If it has an end cap and just muzzle devices the have external threads that match you end cap , you could file for a 30cal and use it on a 223
You won’t get nearly as good sound suppression with a 223 through a 30 cal can as if you had one designated for each caliber

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:10 pm
by plumber_bob
I might get a 30 can first then.
If I decide to do it, that is.

pb

Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:19 pm
by Niceguy
That's why I did a .45 can instead of a 9mm. MUCH more versatile. I can put 9 caps on it and I'd be willing to put it up against a 9mm can in not being able to hear a difference. I've seen and heard people using 30 cal cans on 5.56 and it's not a massive difference. And you can't throw your 5.56 can on your .308 even if you put the right end cap on it. Well, I guess you could once...haha

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Re: Form 1 can

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:22 pm
by Dave1965
I have a bunch of solvent can adaptors left over from doing the gun shows. use oil filters for cleaning