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H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:38 am
by richief
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... l/367?r=21

Well hoping this and a lot of other good legislation passes.
On that note, where is the best place in Kentucky to purchase a supressor, or two, or three?

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:09 am
by Toddstang
This is why I put a hold on buying anything soon.
Why wait a year for a stamp if you really won't need one in a few months?

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:23 am
by ssracer
Toddstang wrote:This is why I put a hold on buying anything soon.
Why wait a year for a stamp if you really won't need one in a few months?
And even if it takes a year to pass, you still haven't really lost any time..lol

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:01 am
by Niceguy
My thoughts also...

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:11 am
by Rem700
richief wrote:https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... l/367?r=21

Well hoping this and a lot of other good legislation passes.
On that note, where is the best place in Kentucky to purchase a supressor, or two, or three?
I had great service through Gameliel Shooting Supply in Gameliel, KY. Purchased it online. Sent them a copy of my trust. They filed my paperwork with the BATFE. Then they sent me a 4473 once the stamp was approved and now my suppressor is in transit to me. Should have it today!

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:32 am
by Robert Paulson
holding breath

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:53 pm
by DDgunslinger
We shall see

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:49 pm
by Niceguy
I'd LOVE to see it happen, but I'm sure not holding my breath. I don't see anyway in hell that the gov is going to give up all these $200 a pop fees for doing very little...But I reeaaally hope I'm wrong.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:57 pm
by DDgunslinger
Niceguy wrote:I'd LOVE to see it happen, but I'm sure not holding my breath. I don't see anyway in hell that the gov is going to give up all these $200 a pop fees for doing very little...But I reeaaally hope I'm wrong.
That's the big thing, giving up the free revenue, the .Gov really likes their easy moneys for doing nothin.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:00 pm
by Niceguy
Exactly...

H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:16 pm
by ssracer
Yup. Last year silencer shop ALONE sent the government over $2M in ONE day for form 4s

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:17 pm
by ssracer
I'm afraid the boom in silencer popularity may make them harder to get off the NFA list than say 10 years ago.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:30 pm
by Rem700
DDgunslinger wrote:
Niceguy wrote:I'd LOVE to see it happen, but I'm sure not holding my breath. I don't see anyway in hell that the gov is going to give up all these $200 a pop fees for doing very little...But I reeaaally hope I'm wrong.
That's the big thing, giving up the free revenue, the .Gov really likes their easy moneys for doing nothin.
This. But im still hoping!

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:32 pm
by justang1997
I think this has a good chance of passing. If this is the first big thing the NRA is pushing after all the Republican victories that's a good sign.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:05 pm
by jmeister
Emailed my congressmen last night

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:43 pm
by shaggy1392
I dont wont to get my hopes up but I too think this will pass. Seem like the climate is just right for this.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:03 am
by Toddstang
Yep.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:28 am
by Wyldman
For a change...

Crush, kill, mangle, maim, destroy.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:21 am
by Toecutter1978
Now why not just make your own and not worry about those pesky form 4 cans. Form 1 those things.

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:31 am
by iron369
Toecutter1978 wrote:Now why not just make your own and not worry about those pesky form 4 cans. Form 1 those things.

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Form 1's are running just as long as form 4's nowadays. Lots of form 1's were filed right before 41p

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:34 am
by Toecutter1978
iron369 wrote:
Toecutter1978 wrote:Now why not just make your own and not worry about those pesky form 4 cans. Form 1 those things.

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Form 1's are running just as long as form 4's nowadays. Lots of form 1's were filed right before 41p
Really? Wow! Last time I looked the turn around was one to two months.

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H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:35 am
by iron369
Toecutter1978 wrote:
iron369 wrote:
Toecutter1978 wrote:Now why not just make your own and not worry about those pesky form 4 cans. Form 1 those things.

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Form 1's are running just as long as form 4's nowadays. Lots of form 1's were filed right before 41p
Really? Wow! Last time I looked the turn around was one to two months.

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They are running about 7 months. People getting their form 1 cans approved now filed back in June. They can't be efiled anymore which expedited the process and there was a big rush to keep from trying to get fingerprints and photos for everyone on your trust.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:47 am
by Wyldman
I have been making notes and drawings for some cans I want to build for a while, now. I can't do anything with them until after the new legislation passes, but I can dream.

I did file a form 1 last year and build a 9mm can that cost me $30 for materials, and it works great. It's actually smaller and quieter than my Bowers 9mm can that I bought to use on my M11/9!

Crush, kill, mangle, maim, destroy.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:36 am
by iron369
Wyldman wrote:I have been making notes and drawings for some cans I want to build for a while, now. I can't do anything with them until after the new legislation passes, but I can dream.

I did file a form 1 last year and build a 9mm can that cost me $30 for materials, and it works great. It's actually smaller and quieter than my Bowers 9mm can that I bought to use on my M11/9!

Crush, kill, mangle, maim, destroy.
I'd love to see a picture of this. I have substantially more in my 9mm form 1 can. I'm waiting on some moly resin to come and it should be done.
I have honk if the hpa goes through it will increase price of suppressor for a while until demand slows closer to supply.

Re: H.R. 367 Hearing Protection Act 2017 (HPA)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:49 am
by WLJ
Niceguy wrote:I'd LOVE to see it happen, but I'm sure not holding my breath. I don't see anyway in hell that the gov is going to give up all these $200 a pop fees for doing very little...But I reeaaally hope I'm wrong.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if it cost almost as much or perhaps even more for them to process the paperwork than the fee knowing the govt.