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Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:40 pm
by ken6881

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:09 pm
by ssracer
Been tried before. Love to see it happen.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:21 pm
by kokopelli
Tried a few times. Gummint just laughs

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:58 pm
by Wyldman
You can bet your ass Lord Yarmouth won't get behind this.

I am so eternally grateful that I don't have to put up with that libtard asshole any more!

Crush, kill, mangle, maim, destroy.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:26 pm
by Toddstang
Election time. May be a better time to try passing this.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:18 pm
by jackalo626
Toddstang wrote:Election time. May be a better time to try passing this.
Correct

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:37 pm
by Wyldman
Praying....

Crush, kill, mangle, maim, destroy.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:19 pm
by baknblack
Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:21 pm
by ssracer
baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:44 pm
by Rem700
Don't give them any ideas!!!!

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:52 pm
by ssracer
Rem700 wrote:Don't give them any ideas!!!!
raising a tax...they have wet dreams about that idea

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:55 am
by jackalo626
ssracer wrote:
baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.
Shouldn't be a tax, "shall not be infringed. .... unless it is cool, quiet, scary looking, auto" must be missing from what I've seen but apparently it is there.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:15 am
by WLJ
Anyone remember the last time the govt removed a preexisting tax? I don't.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:28 pm
by baknblack
WLJ wrote:Anyone remember the last time the govt removed a preexisting tax? I don't.
Me either, I found this extremely funny for some unknown reason.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:39 pm
by Wyldman
It has never happened.

Crush, kill, mangle, maim, destroy.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:11 pm
by DDgunslinger
It won't pass, I wish it would... but I won't hold my breath. The whole Class 3/ NFA shit is all one big racket and the .gov plans to keep it that way and expand it whenever possible

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:15 pm
by Pitbullcrazyinky
Just curious. ..would you guys pay 3 or 400 if there was a "express wait"? Lets say 1 or 2 weeks....

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:50 pm
by Tyler
ssracer wrote:
baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.
It's about control, not money. I would be very surprised if taxes collected come close to covering the operational costs for the NFA branch of the ATF. Just think of all the overpaid paper pushers and bureaucrats being paid to take part in the infringement of our rights, as well as lights, water, maintenance, electronics, office supplies and legal staff. SOT fees may help out the bottom line, but the tax and forms are simply a nuisance intended to discourage civilian ownership, specifically lower to middle class individuals.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:06 pm
by ssracer
jackalo626 wrote:
ssracer wrote:
baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.
Shouldn't be a tax, "shall not be infringed. .... unless it is cool, quiet, scary looking, auto" must be missing from what I've seen but apparently it is there.
no argument here

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:08 pm
by jackalo626
Pitbullcrazyinky wrote:Just curious. ..would you guys pay 3 or 400 if there was a "express wait"? Lets say 1 or 2 weeks....
I won't pay $1 for something I am "truly" free to own but I digress.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:09 pm
by jackalo626
Tyler wrote:
ssracer wrote:
baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.
It's about control, not money. I would be very surprised if taxes collected come close to covering the operational costs for the NFA branch of the ATF. Just think of all the overpaid paper pushers and bureaucrats being paid to take part in the infringement of our rights, as well as lights, water, maintenance, electronics, office supplies and legal staff. SOT fees may help out the bottom line, but the tax and forms are simply a nuisance intended to discourage civilian ownership, specifically lower to middle class individuals.
Truth, they take our real money elsewhere.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:10 pm
by jackalo626
We pay taxes annually on items we already own. The logic is buried deep below the ocean floor in an impenetrable vault with 12 locks and no keys.

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:17 pm
by ssracer
jackalo626 wrote:We pay taxes annually on items we already own. The logic is buried deep below the ocean floor in an impenetrable vault with 12 locks and no keys.
never have been able to bring myself to understand that one. Pay sales tax when you buy a car...then pay more tax every year because...unicorn farts?

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:18 pm
by jackalo626
ssracer wrote:
jackalo626 wrote:We pay taxes annually on items we already own. The logic is buried deep below the ocean floor in an impenetrable vault with 12 locks and no keys.
never have been able to bring myself to understand that one. Pay sales tax when you buy a car...then pay more tax every year because...unicorn farts?
Yep

Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:18 pm
by jackalo626
To be allowed to own something you already paid for..... we are pussies.