Kentucky Armory Club

Good info in this video

Fact vs Fantasy - Beretta M9/92FS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOB4HvWSpAM

He failed to mention my favorite "feature" of the M9:

When you're wearing a lot of gear the cool ambi, dual-function "safety" will catch on your clothing (or vest, or a strap, or a seat belt) and switch itself on (and off...and on...).

Drawing from the holster and finding a dead trigger is an adrenaline rush.

M9s with G kits are cool. M9s without G kits...not so much.

92G is only way to go.

Frailer wrote:He failed to mention my favorite "feature" of the M9:

When you're wearing a lot of gear the cool ambi, dual-function "safety" will catch on your clothing (or vest, or a strap, or a seat belt) and switch itself on (and off...and on...).

I would have to argue that is pretty much a "feature" of just about any gun with a manual safety.

Dustin wrote:92G is only way to go.

92/96s require the addition of a couple of a parts that can be purchased to be converted from F to G
The PX4 line with a very similar safety setup require the removal of a couple of parts, a spring and a ball bearing, to do the same.
Converted both my PX4s from F to G. Takes less than 10 minutes.

WLJ wrote:

Frailer wrote:He failed to mention my favorite "feature" of the M9:

When you're wearing a lot of gear the cool ambi, dual-function "safety" will catch on your clothing (or vest, or a strap, or a seat belt) and switch itself on (and off...and on...).

I would have to argue that is pretty much a "feature" of just about any gun with a manual safety.

It's certainly a *possibility* with any exposed manual safety, but in actual practice I never had a 1911 safety move on or off safe while in the holster. In fact, a 1911 with this issue would be deemed unsafe, and justifiably so. Happened with my M9 all the time--and not just mine.

I've never understood the logic behind having a thumb safety on a DA/SA gun, be it a Beretta or a CZ. IMHO, you should give it a decocker or design it to be carried cocked and locked.

Seems to me it should be common sense to include thumbing the safety on the draw in your shooting practice with any gun with a manual safety.
You did mention the 1911 which, guess what, you had to flip the safety off on every draw if carried cocked and locked. Not sure why some people couldn't do with a 92 that they already had to do with a 1911.

Dustin wrote:92G is only way to go.

This makes it hands down one very dependable war ready sidearm. The G conversion is such a inexpensive, easy to install kit that it really needs to be implemented across all stock.

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WLJ wrote:Seems to me it should be common sense to include thumbing the safety on the draw in your shooting practice with any gun with a manual safety.
You did mention the 1911 which, guess what, you had to flip the safety off on every draw if carried cocked and locked. Not sure why some people couldn't do with a 92 that they already had to do with a 1911.

Frame-mounted vs. slide-mounted safeties present different ergonomics. The latter just doesn’t work for me. With the 1911 safety your strong side thumb is “there”...and stays there.

Your mileage, of course may vary.