Do I want an FNP .45?

[1fastmach1]

I have a shot at an FNP .45, NIB with 3 mags for $570.00. I don't need it, but am a .45 junky, as many here know. I have heard many good things about these pistols, and very few negatives. I do find the 15+1 capacity attractive, and don't mind full size handguns.

Is the price reasonable? I'm wanting opinions here, good, bad, indifferent, whatever. Speak!

To answer your question, an FNP .45 is a sweet pistol. I had the fnx 9 and thought it was a nice piece. It is a little bulky but not awful. It was really accurate too. My only beef was the availability of goodies for it. It was next to impossible to find a good holster without having a custom one made. And since we are talking about mag prices, they are $45 each. Otherwise, sweet shooter for the money.


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[1fastmach1]

I have a number of .45 pistols, including a G21 with more window dressing than Macy's. That's not my question. I wanted to know opinions on the FNP .45, hopefully from those with experience with them, or their smaller caliber bretheren. If you feel that you can provide realistic input based on internet, or other sourced, reading, then feel free to contribute, but you'll forgive me if I pay more attention to those with real hands on experience. Quibbling over a few bucks for magazines in the world of high dollar combat handguns just seems; well, silly, honestly. Yes, Glock makes a fine pistol, and for comparitively reasonable money, but it ain't the only game in town. To truly appreciate what you have, one must often try what one doesn't have or has never seen. New things come along all the time, and sometimes the next 1911 is just ahead on the road to perfection.

Well said.

To add- try all flavors. I never knew how much i'd like an FNP until I tried it. Then it opened my door back up to the beretta m9, which I really really like and keep coming back to.

Wyld- I will say, screw some HK mags though. $45-60? HK hates you.

I've got a few HK pistols and I've never paid over 40 for a mag. I just bought six brand new in package P30 9mm mags for $180 bucks shipped. Pretty decent deal. It's hard to find good factory HK parts on the secondary market. The hkparts.net website commands a premium for everything. I've had to order from them a couple times and it didn't feel good. I bought a mark23 about four years ago and I've purchased a few mags for it. They were the most I've paid for HK mags and they were unfortunately $40 each.


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HK hates you too. I have owned one. It was a great pistol. I sold it to wyldman. I wasnt willing to put the $$$ into it. I'm a mag whore.

I don't dispute the fact they are a little pricey but as someone else said to bitch about paying $40 for a mag for a high end semi auto pistol is pretty silly. You get what you pay for right?


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I guess. And to clarify I am not bitching. I'll go ahead and disagree with you get what you pay for. Havent seen an HK do anything an FNP, M9, Glock, etc can't do other than impress other gun people. If thats what you are paying for, then yes, you do get what you paid for.

Maybe bitching was a poor choice of words. Trust me. I hated the fact they were $45 each and was tickled to death it came with three mags. I'm referring to my old fnx9. 17 round mags was super sweet too.

Generally speaking of course, most cheap guns are exactly that..... Cheap. Disagree?

Doesn't the FNP 45 have the green soft case? If so... Bonus! Love those cases.

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[Dave1965]

If you have to complain about magazine prices, stick to a revolver .

[Wyldman]

Bought a NIB FN FNP .45 w/3 15 rd mags on GunBroker last night. Got a decent deal on it, $590, including shipping, insurance, & xfer. Black frame w/stainless slide.

Now, I go shopping for a threaded barrel, tall night sights, and whatever trigger mods I have to make to make it into a full blown Tactical version. When I'm done, I should be on the right side of an off-the-shelf FNP .45 Tactical by nearly $300, the cheapest I've seen thus far being over $1100.00.

Merry Christmas to me from Mrs. W! She loves me, I think!

ETA: Cut & pasted from the Pit to update this thread.

[1fastmach1]

How do I become a member to access the pit?


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[Wyldman]

Talk to the founders.

[SNL]

Bought a NIB FN FNP

Rule!

Now, I go shopping for a threaded barrel

RULE!

Merry Christmas to me from Mrs. W! She loves me, I think!

RUUUULLLEEEEEE!

[1fastmach1]

Talk to the founders.

Alrighty

Congrats ontogeny FNP. That FNP tactical 45 is one of my favorites. I have a tan model myself. Came with the soft case and all that jazz. Nice pistols.


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[scorpionmain]

It's on my list of wants.
Buy it and be happy.

Edit :
See you already did.

[Livewire]

The FNP-45 is a great shooting pistol. It's easily taken down for cleaning and being able to change out the back straps make it more comfortable for the shooter. My only complaint is the magazine springs. On two separate occasions I've had FTF with two different magazines using WWB and federal round nose ammo. After doing some internet research I found s few others have had the same issue. A few people returned the magazines to FN and waited for the turn around to exchange them. A few people took their mags apart and simply stretched the springs a little and reassembled. I went that route before contacting FN and exchanging mags. I've ran over 100 rounds with both of the mags and haven't had any problems since. I'm not sure of the exact cause of the problem since I've never left the mags loaded since I only use it for range use and it wasn't with all three of the magazines. With that being said I'd definately buy one again.

[guncrank1]

Really? Try buying some Sig, H&K, or even Ruger handgun mags. They all run in the same price range. Glock mags aren't that much cheaper.

I've never paid more than $25 for a factory glock mag. I'm just surprised at how much that magazine costs. Ive never priced or really wanted and HK because to me, it won't do anything that my glock won't do accept cost me more money.

We have all gotten things cheaper than retail and the quantity of Glocks out there makes them easier to sell cheaper sometimes but the retail is very much in the same ballpark as the others.

Understand. Dont want to thread stomp. I can make another thread to discuss mags.

It's not "thread stomping" when we are discussing the same topic the op asked about. We are talking about the gun and it's costs of ownership. He needs pros and cons so this is one that pro or con depends on who you are.

Ok. Was just trying to be polite.


Then my question would be why not have a glock 21? Its high capacity. It doesnt have all the other crap the FNP has (that is unnessecary in my opinion). Its mags are far cheaper.


OP said in another thread he has an HK USP. So what does the FNP do other than be a cheaper, yet still expensive copy of the same style gun?

I guess if you just want to get one to collect 45s.... Your money, you do what you please with it.

FNP have steel sights and not cheap Glock plastic sights, made in USA, comes with three mags vs Glocks only two mags, capacity is 15rds of 45 vs Glocks 13. Those come to my mind in the value of the FNP. Many reasons for different wants. The Glock has more options for aftermarket accessories such as holsters, sights, extended controls, etc.

The other side is a lack of aftermarket support, lack of holsters, lack of magazines (and expensive). Unless it comes with steel night sights, whats the real difference between plastic and steel sights? I've never had a sight break and I'd wager it isn't a common problem. I don't know a lot about FNP other than their long guns. It just seems to me it's not much better than a Glock 21, or the HK the OP referenced before. YMMV.

Holster is a sheet of Kydex and hardware
Or a piece of leather and hardware.

[guncrank1]

The FNP-45 is a great shooting pistol. It's easily taken down for cleaning and being able to change out the back straps make it more comfortable for the shooter. My only complaint is the magazine springs. On two separate occasions I've had FTF with two different magazines using WWB and federal round nose ammo. After doing some internet research I found s few others have had the same issue. A few people returned the magazines to FN and waited for the turn around to exchange them. A few people took their mags apart and simply stretched the springs a little and reassembled. I went that route before contacting FN and exchanging mags. I've ran over 100 rounds with both of the mags and haven't had any problems since. I'm not sure of the exact cause of the problem since I've never left the mags loaded since I only use it for range use and it wasn't with all three of the magazines. With that being said I'd definately buy one again.

Stretching the spring does not do anything
Magizine spring will go back to it's set again.

Sounds like whatever jamming was removed on reassembly.

[guncrank1]

Livewire
Springs are ok loaded for long periods
The time spring get weak is in use
Over time and many cycles of compression and relaxing , the spring will collapse beyond the set.

Will post pic of FN .45 when it arrives.

[jackalo626]

Livewire
Springs are ok loaded for long periods
The time spring get weak is in use
Over time and many cycles of compression and relaxing , the spring will collapse beyond the set.

Will post pic of FN .45 when it arrives.

Exactly.

[Livewire]

I'm just gonna go ahead and disagree.

When the over all length of the spring is longer after being stretched and remains that length for an extended period of time before being put back in the magazine.

Unless the new pistol was shipped with used magazines there's no way they were weak from being used. Same two mags wouldn't push the last two rounds up high enough to be stripped from the magazine. No burrs or rough spots on any of the contact surfaces for the bullet or pistol parts. Problem went away after dealing with the mag springs.

[guncrank1]

I'm just gonna go ahead and disagree.

When the over all length of the spring is longer after being stretched and remains that length for an extended period of time before being put back in the magazine.

Unless the new pistol was shipped with used magazines there's no way they were weak from being used. Same two mags wouldn't push the last two rounds up high enough to be stripped from the magazine. No burrs or rough spots on any of the contact surfaces for the bullet or pistol parts. Problem went away after dealing with the mag springs.

You can disagree all you want but when spring is compressed it will go to the set length no matter how long it is stretched.
Unless it is stretched beyond it's elastic limit.
Which reduces the spring cycle rate

[guncrank1]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_(device" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

I learnt some of this in toolmaker school.

[Livewire]

Ok

You are right

You are also the supreme overlord of everything you look at

The reason metal can be formed or destroyed is because the guncrank put his shoes on

[guncrank1]

Ok

You are right

You are also the supreme overlord of everything you look at

The reason metal can be formed or destroyed is because the guncrank put his shoes on

I know asshole Cranky
Don't worry LiveWire you still know more about high voltage electrical work.

Ok ,buddy

[Livewire]

I know when working with high voltage it's not good to be a conductor

[GeminiXD9]

Awesome pick up wyld

[SNL]

over all length of the spring is longer after being stretched and remains that length

stretched beyond it's elastic limit.

you jackholes are saying the same thing

[Livewire]

You're out of your element Donnie (SNL).

Jack hole

[SNL]

hooooooooole

[DDgunslinger]

Springs are ok loaded for long periods (Several test have proven this)
The time spring get weak is in use (Loading, and Unloading)
Over time and many cycles of compression and decompression, the spring will collapse beyond the set.(Less tension when compressed results in reduced reliability of feeding correctly)

This