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I need to step up my sharpening game. I typically take care of my pocket knives with a small Lansky Blade Medic. I've just stepped up to a CPMS30V knife and need something a little bigger and more capable. I also need to be able to sharpen cutlery. Chef's blades, Santoku etc. I am a sharpening moron. I've never been able to do it for shit. I am thinking the Spyderco Sharpmaker almost looks like it's so moron proof even I could do it.
1) Is my assumption correct on ease of use from inexperienced sharpeners
2) Will it do a good job on S30V?
Thanks folks
Re: Sharpener
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 5:26 pm
by plumber_bob
Let me suggest you check youtube videos on sharpening wood working tools.
Some of those use 3000grit stones or sand paper.
IIRC they start with 800grit then 1k, then 3k.
Looks like you could split a split hair when done.
Let me suggest you check youtube videos on sharpening wood working tools.
Some of those use 3000grit stones or sand paper.
IIRC they start with 800grit then 1k, then 3k.
Looks like you could split a split hair when done.
pb
It's the holding shit at angles I cannot do. I can hold something perfectly vertical though.
Re: Sharpener
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 6:34 pm
by plumber_bob
The wood working videos should give you tips on making the jigs to get the right angles.
pb
Re: Sharpener
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 6:35 pm
by plumber_bob
First rule:
Quit finding excuses to not try it. It's called a learning curve.
It's the holding shit at angles I cannot do. I can hold something perfectly vertical though.
First of all, S30V is a bitch to sharpen! HARD WEARING STEEL My Benchmade 940 is tough to sharpen, DON'T LET IT GET "DULL".
Angles of the grind determine the use and durability of the edge. Within reason any angle will cut. 15-20 degrees for slicing, 20-30 for durable utility, 25-35 for heavy duty chopping. The most important is the edge apex. Without each side terminating into a 0 degree edge, all the measuring and fancy tools don't mean shit! Here's a good no nonsense primer on sharpening:
Re: Sharpener
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 7:04 pm
by nemo
This is 12-14oz veg tanned leather, 4mm or 1/8” thick. I have no clue what angle this scandi grind is but edge is apexed and polished. Cuts through the leather like butter!! This is my main carving knife and also preforms excellent on wood.
First rule:
Quit finding excuses to not try it. It's called a learning curve.
pb
Yea, I screwed up a bunch of blades in the learning process. It's just gonna happen.
Thanks Nemo but I haven't the time, skill or honestly the desire to go to those levels. I really want to just find a decent way to keep my blades tuned while leading a busy life. If I can't sharpen them I will go to Carl at Heimerdinger's like I always have. Will the sharp maker do what I need man?
Re: Sharpener
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 7:40 pm
by nemo
I haven’t used any of them. I heard both good and bad opinions.
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Re: Sharpener
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 7:45 pm
by nemo
Here’s what 2 minutes on a belt sander and a polishing wheel can do to a harbor freight machete. Does it need to be hair shaving sharp?
Here’s what 2 minutes on a belt sander and a polishing wheel can do to a harbor freight machete. Does it need to be hair shaving sharp?
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Re: Sharpener
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 10:36 pm
by Rem700
I have the same problem you do with angles. I try but never put enough time and effort in. I got a work sharp and it takes out most of the guess work. Has guides for he angles and progressive sand paper grits. Works pretty well for my hunting knives and my daily carry
I have the same problem you do with angles. I try but never put enough time and effort in. I got a work sharp and it takes out most of the guess work. Has guides for he angles and progressive sand paper grits. Works pretty well for my hunting knives and my daily carry
Which one? I considered the Ken Onion one but it sounds like a single side only sharpen. I have expensive cutlery I don't want that on.
Re: Sharpener
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:41 am
by Toecutter1978
The Work Sharp knife and tool sharpener has worked very well for me over the years. It is a small motorized belt sharpener. The machine has guides so you are always in the same angle.
When I was working with Johnny I brought it in to work and sharpened some of his knives or was it just one, I cannot remember. The guys there liked it.
I use it to sharpen lawnmower blades, axes, scissors, and other kitchen knives.
I have even used it as a quick angle sander as the head is adjustable.
I have the same problem you do with angles. I try but never put enough time and effort in. I got a work sharp and it takes out most of the guess work. Has guides for he angles and progressive sand paper grits. Works pretty well for my hunting knives and my daily carry
Which one? I considered the Ken Onion one but it sounds like a single side only sharpen. I have expensive cutlery I don't want that on.
I have the Ken onion one. Not used it on anything expensive though so I can’t say.
20k is the highest I’ve seen. It was a $300 stone.
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Re: Sharpener
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 11:11 am
by plumber_bob
I just found 10k stone after I posted that.
It was $120.
Can't imagine needing a stone so fine.
pb
Re: Sharpener
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:36 pm
by KYgundude
I bought the Sharpmaker and been cutting up lots of cardboard to dull the crap out of my CEO flipper. Will try it out on an AUS-8 blade and see how it works before it touches the new knife.
Re: Sharpener
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:42 pm
by KYgundude
LEGIT. I beat the shit out of that CEO Flipper for a week. Whittled with it. Cut up tons of boxes. Took about 30 mins but I have it shaving. Never have I successfully sharpened a knife until today. I assume S30V is gonna take me 3 or four times as many strokes as AUS8 did but I'm willing to try it on them.
I assume S30V is gonna take me 3 or four times as many strokes as AUS8 did but I'm willing to try it on them.
I have now idea about what you said right there.
Learn me sumpin, please?
pb
My Benchmade 940 is S30V steel. It holds an edge for a long time even in abusive use. Unfortunately it take a while to sharpen when dull. Key to it is never let it get full full. It takes the better part of a hour to restore razor sharp. Every couple of days to a week I run it over a polishing wheel with green compound then strop. Maintain the edge and it's easy!
I assume S30V is gonna take me 3 or four times as many strokes as AUS8 did but I'm willing to try it on them.
I have now idea about what you said right there.
Learn me sumpin, please?
pb
My Benchmade 940 is S30V steel, it holds an edge for a long time even in abusive use. Unfortunately it take a while to sharpen when dull. Key to it is never let it get full full, it take the better part of a hour to restore sharp.
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I have a Kershaw Blur S30V and I just ordered a Benchmade Mini Griptillian(Studs not holes) in it. Since I started pocket carrying strong side, I have trouble working the Delica weak side. The left hand don't like the Spidey Holes.
