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9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:55 am
by Niceguy
Since owning my second Sub2k and playing with my current one suppressed, I'm REALLY wanting a 9mm SBR. Not sure what route to take. This is a catagory I haven't ever seen any discussion on in here. DD and I were talking about a few at Roosters Sunday now I'm really wanting one. Now I need to make my mind up on what I want so I can start saving for it.
A 10" or under Glock mag AR is very appealing on all levels and my top choice right now. Decent availability, semi-reasonably priced, cheap & available good mags that I already own.
A HK MP5 knockoff. I know nothing about these... Ones to buy, ones to avoid, the plus and negatives, nothing. I think an HK is probably out of my reach, maybe a good (if there is a good one) knockoff wouldn't be.

What are some other choices out here and what is everyone's opinions on any of these that you know anything about?

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:07 am
by kokopelli
SBR the Sub2k?

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:50 am
by Niceguy
kokopelli wrote:SBR the Sub2k?
I like the idea of that. But the way the charge handle is on it, I'm not sure it could.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:52 am
by dbh
I have 3 SBR'd:
Sig MPX
CZ Scorpion Evo
B&T TP-9

You are welcome to come by the house and check them out.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:00 am
by WLJ
I vote CZ Scorpion Evo

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:02 am
by Niceguy
dbh wrote:I have 3 SBR'd:
Sig MPX
CZ Scorpion Evo
B&T TP-9

You are welcome to come by the house and check them out.
Do all 3 of those take mags unique to each of them? Having all 3, would you choose one over the others?

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:34 am
by Niceguy
I don't like the looks of the TP-9 at all. Looks wise I like the Sig over the CZ. I love that they can be made full auto. Can you legally own either in full auto with a tax stamp?

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:47 am
by ssracer
Scorpion evo or quarter circle 10 build are my choices. The biggest downside to the QC 10 is that it is an AR platform and therefore has a buffer tube so it can't get as short as the scorpion or mpx

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:48 am
by ssracer
Niceguy wrote:I don't like the looks of the TP-9 at all. Looks wise I like the Sig over the CZ. I love that they can be made full auto. Can you legally own either in full auto with a tax stamp?
you can't legally own any full auto made after 1986 unless you are a manufacturer or class three dealer

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:48 am
by ssracer
Scorpion over MPX just due to the price difference...lol

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:54 am
by Toddstang
I love my MP5 clone. Expensive but my most favorite toy in the safe.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:57 am
by Toddstang

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:04 pm
by son of liberty
I like designs that keep the magazine in the grip. Overall it may not look as cool but it keeps the whole package much shorter.

It may sound a bit crazy but SBR a glock. Given the right parts it would make a compact formatable weapon. A red dot mount an extended barrel, stock, and a drop grip.
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Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:30 pm
by guncrank1
Niceguy wrote:
kokopelli wrote:SBR the Sub2k?
I like the idea of that. But the way the charge handle is on it, I'm not sure it could.

Yes it can be done.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:08 pm
by Dave1965
Sig is twice the cost of Scorpion. I now have a scorpion and seeing that other thread with the MPX SBR and suppressor, makes me want that.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:11 pm
by dbh
MPX > CZ
TP-9 is hard to compare to the others because it is completely different. Way smaller. If I had the MPX in hand, I wouldn't have bought the CZ.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:12 pm
by dbh
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Waiting on Sig to release the 4" barrel. Should be early 2016.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:15 pm
by dbh
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TP-9 with stock out. When folded, it easily fits below your armpit. Wear a jacket and its concealed.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:46 pm
by Niceguy
dbh wrote:
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Waiting on Sig to release the 4" barrel. Should be early 2016.
Watching a few YouTube reviews, all are saying the same. But, a few complain about the gas and shit blowing back at you when suppressed. That would be a HUGE dislike for me. Ergonomic look a lot better to me than the CZ also.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:50 pm
by dbh
It does have alot of gas. Not noticeable outside but when I shot it at OR, it about choked me. I have an adapter to suppress my Evo but haven't tried it yet.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:51 pm
by Niceguy
son of liberty wrote:I like designs that keep the magazine in the grip. Overall it may not look as cool but it keeps the whole package much shorter.

It may sound a bit crazy but SBR a glock. Given the right parts it would make a compact formatable weapon. A red dot mount an extended barrel, stock, and a drop grip.
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I like this idea too. A threaded 34 or 17L would make a pretty cool and handy little SBR! I'm assuming the frame would be the gun, so you could swap 9mm, .40, .357Sig with no more paperwork...

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:49 pm
by Dave1965
dbh wrote:MPX > CZ
TP-9 is hard to compare to the others because it is completely different. Way smaller. If I had the MPX in hand, I wouldn't have bought the CZ.
if the mpx had fit in the budget at Christmas, I would have likely had it.

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:27 pm
by Robert Paulson
i got a cz and its a blast. can be had all day for 800 bucks. Mags are $20. So you can have a stamped sbr for 1200 bucks.

Scorpion 800
Stamp 200
Stock and 922r parts 200

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:33 pm
by Niceguy
Robert Paulson wrote:i got a cz and its a blast. can be had all day for 800 bucks. Mags are $20. So you can have a stamped sbr for 1200 bucks.

Scorpion 800
Stamp 200
Stock and 922r parts 200
What's your opinion on these over a Glock mag AR9mm?
Same question to Dave also...

Re: 9mm SBR

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:46 pm
by Frailer
Personally, I'd opt for an MPX with the brace, and screw the tax stamp.