Executive order list

http://www.youtube.com/user/ssracer02 · Post by **ssracer** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:25 pm

Many of those I would have no issues with, some even seem to be along the lines of common sense.

Now his proposals to congress on the other hand....

Post by **kyswede** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:30 pm

I told my daughter, who is 30 and has 3 kids, if we are alive in ten years we will look back on today as the beginning of a new chapter of American history.

Post by **WLJ** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:34 pm

99% fluff.

What have I been saying all along? He expects others to do his dirty work.
Fits his usual pattern of "leading from behind"

Post by **Frailer** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:37 pm

The NRA needs to tread carefully now.

They've been handled the ball, and there's nobody between them and the end zone. Don't stumble, don't fumble.

Post by **renovatio** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:42 pm

Coach wrote:No mag restriction via EO and the ban is not reinstated.

In congress hands now,

What am I missing? I just watched as much of his live address as I could stomach and he said he was proposing a reinstatement of the assault weapons ban and hicap mag ban.

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:44 pm

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

is that not the rule already? Even if they recover your stolen weapon I think they are required to do a NICS check (not sure if they are considering that a 'full background check' but I think they are).

Post by **nemo** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:47 pm

For the most part fluff. I think we can live with it.

Post by **Mandy** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:47 pm

Numbers 21, 22, and 23. Can someone explain a little better what these mean exactly.

Post by **renovatio** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:48 pm

Coach wrote:
renovatio wrote:
Coach wrote:No mag restriction via EO and the ban is not reinstated.

In congress hands now,
What am I missing? I just watched as much of his live address as I could stomach and he said he was proposing a reinstatement of the assault weapons ban and hicap mag ban.

That's legislative agenda. Meaning congress purvey. He can propose what he wants congress has to make it happen. That's where we come in, and our voice.

I missed the differentiation between EO and proposal- thanks for the clarification. That sounds better.

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:49 pm

nemo wrote:For the most part fluff. I think we can live with it.

PLEASE... no one stand down yet. Remember this POTUS has vowed to "put the full weight of the office" behind a new AWB and he is 'ready to spend as much political capital" as necessary.

Post by **Mandy** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:51 pm

I am having trouble finding anything that really explains those.

Post by **GeminiXD9** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:52 pm

Yeah. Even though this doesn't seem as bad as we thought, it's not over yet. Contact your state officials now

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:54 pm

I wanna read the EO's. Did anyone catch when they are supposed to be signed?

Post by **nemo** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:57 pm

Stand down, NO SIR! I just meant that the list was not as bad as thought and actually has some merit.

Post by **kokopelli** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:05 pm

PD was doing 'active shooter' training ten years ago...we used an abandoned school for one of the scenarios...

how unarmed teachers will/should respond is interesting...

Post by **Niceguy** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:09 pm

how unarmed teachers will/should respond is interesting...[/quote]
They should boldly stand and point to the gun free sign on the door. That should be sufficient... :llama:

Post by **scorpionmain** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:35 pm

ChopperDoc wrote:I wanna read the EO's. Did anyone catch when they are supposed to be signed?

He signed them right after the speech.

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:37 pm

President Barack Obama has deliberately missed the target with his proposed gun control scheme, announced today at the White House, because it is now clear he wants to blame law-abiding gun owners for the actions of criminals and madmen, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said.CCRKBA

“Suddenly Mr. Obama wants to get more criminal and mental health records into the NICS background check data base and get a permanent director for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms,” observed CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “Where has he been for the last four years?”

Gottlieb noted that these proposals have been suggested in the past and supported by the firearms community, but they have repeatedly fallen on deaf ears. But now, as he exploits the Sandy Hook school tragedy, these items are high on his anti-gun agenda.

http://www.thegunmag.com/obama-misses-t ... un-agenda/

Post by **Frailer** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:50 pm

As an SAF member, I got that same e-mail.

I have the utmost respect Gottlieb, but I don't get what he's saying. Are we calling this a "win," but we still don't like it?

Post by **jmeister** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:21 pm

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

clarify? even he doesn't know what's in it? you mean reverse

Post by **justang1997** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:38 pm

Numbers 4, 14, and 15 seem like the ones to worry about and possibly number 8 too.
4. Asking the AG to review the categories of people who shouldn't be allowed guns seems very.... Suspicious. What categories will they add??? PTSD sufferers?
8. Could mean manditory locking of guns in the home in safes or with provided locks.

Post by **justang1997** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:40 pm

14. Could be used to make gun ownership cause your insurance rates to rise.
15. Microstamping and so on...

Post by **Frailer** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:57 pm

jmeister wrote:16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

clarify? even he doesn't know what's in it? you mean reverse

Doctors can still ask. You just can't be forced to answer, and information about your firearms ownership can't be "databased."

Post by **guncrank1** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:14 pm

Again us FFLS get crapped on

Post by **son of liberty** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:20 pm

ssracer wrote:Many of those I would have no issues with, some even seem to be along the lines of common sense.

Now his proposals to congress on the other hand....

There is no such thing as common sense gun control, all ALL gun control is a violation of the 2nd.

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