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Post by kokopelli » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:05 pm

ssracer wrote:
WLJ wrote:* Ban SBRs and full autos. They already have your name and address and it's S/N. knock knock.
this is one that has me concerned...even though of course neither was actually used in any of these incidents

oh, but according to the reporter(s) the shooter came in 'with those full auto weapons'!

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Post by WLJ » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:07 pm

ssracer wrote:
WLJ wrote:* Ban SBRs and full autos. They already have your name and address and it's S/N. knock knock.
this is one that has me concerned...even though of course neither was actually used in any of these incidents
Since when did facts have anything to do with this?

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Post by jackalo626 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:16 pm

WLJ wrote:
ssracer wrote:
WLJ wrote:* Ban SBRs and full autos. They already have your name and address and it's S/N. knock knock.
this is one that has me concerned...even though of course neither was actually used in any of these incidents
Since when did facts have anything to do with this?

Never let facts get in the way of exploiting a tragedy.
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Agreed 100%

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Post by WLJ » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:57 pm

Revised version

Remember this is what I think they're try to get but not necessarily get.

New in blue

More likely
* Ban High cap mags. Set limit to 10 again.
* Ban Quick change mag wells. Do what CA did, but this time no bullet button work-a-round.
* Ban Hollowpoints. In some state already it's prison time if caught with HPs.
* Ban the import of "assault" style rifles
* Ban the import of ammo.
* Ban bayonet lugs again. Will put an end to drive by bayonetings. (Remember only emotions are involved in this process)
* Ban flash hiders. See bayonet.
* Ban bump fire and similar type stocks
* Ban SBRs and full autos. They already have your name and address and it's S/N. knock knock.
* Homicide tax on all ammo
* Ban the shoulder thing that goes up (a little humor for those who get it)
* Close the so called gun show loophole.
* Impose a waiting period
* Ban internet ordering of ammo & firearms
* Fuck with my Tavor pre-order!

Somewhat likely
* Require registration of all "assault" style rifles if they don't get a complete ban.
* Limit purchase amount of ammo per month and require ID and background check for ammo.
* Limit and/or add taxes to reloading components
* Impose micro stamping


Less likely
* Completely ban all sales of "assault" style rifles.
* Ban the transfer/sales of "assault" rifles, hi-cap mags etc.. between individuals. In effect as people die off their rifles would have to turned in and destroyed.
* Ban all "non-hunting" type rifles.
* Ban lead ammo (99%, or something like that, of ammo) in effect drive up the cost of ammo. EPA just needs to issue the order.
* Increase min length from 26 to something like 34 or so. (harder in conceal)

Not very likely (yet)
* Require registration of all firearms
* Ban the possession of "assault" style rifles. knock knock
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Post by kokopelli » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:57 pm

I've never understood the 'gun show loophole'...????

I bought a used revolver at a gunshow and still had to fill out a 4473....where's the loophole?

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Post by Harb » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:07 pm

kokopelli wrote:I've never understood the 'gun show loophole'...????

I bought a used revolver at a gunshow and still had to fill out a 4473....where's the loophole?
In places like Kentucky, private persons of 21 or older and sell handguns to each other without filling out any federal paperwork. Vendors will often purchase booth space at gun shows, which is probably what happened to you. Some people want to draw up a bill of sale to protect themselves if the gun is used in a crime and it was bought in their name. The bill can prove they sold it to another person. But in Kentucky, there is no law mandating this.

Not all states allow undocumented private sales, so the so-called loophole isn't a universal fact.

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Post by jackalo626 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:15 pm

Harb wrote:
kokopelli wrote:I've never understood the 'gun show loophole'...????

I bought a used revolver at a gunshow and still had to fill out a 4473....where's the loophole?
In places like Kentucky, private persons of 21 or older and sell handguns to each other without filling out any federal paperwork. Vendors will often purchase booth space at gun shows, which is probably what happened to you. Some people want to draw up a bill of sale to protect themselves if the gun is used in a crime and it was bought in their name. The bill can prove they sold it to another person. But in Kentucky, there is no law mandating this.

Not all states allow undocumented private sales, so the so-called loophole isn't a universal fact.
That gives the outlook some of the anti-self defense crowd has but that is not really what they think specifically. I guarantee anyone that says anything about the "gunshow loophole" doesn't know that many states have ftf transactions so the gunshow is just a dot on the map when the act they are speaking about happens everyday in parking lots because they have no clue you can do that besides going to a gun show.

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Post by WLJ » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:17 pm

Forgot
*Ban collapsible/folding stocks
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Post by son of liberty » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:22 pm

Not the shoulder thing that gose up! lol
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Post by WLJ » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:25 pm

son of liberty wrote:Not the shoulder thing that gose up! lol
They're coming for it.
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Post by son of liberty » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:32 pm

well ill keep my barrel shroud
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Post by kokopelli » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:40 pm

Harb wrote:
kokopelli wrote:I've never understood the 'gun show loophole'...????

I bought a used revolver at a gunshow and still had to fill out a 4473....where's the loophole?
In places like Kentucky, private persons of 21 or older and sell handguns to each other without filling out any federal paperwork. Vendors will often purchase booth space at gun shows, which is probably what happened to you. Some people want to draw up a bill of sale to protect themselves if the gun is used in a crime and it was bought in their name. The bill can prove they sold it to another person. But in Kentucky, there is no law mandating this.

Not all states allow undocumented private sales, so the so-called loophole isn't a universal fact.
ok, yeah- I knew all that...so I guess the Libtard perceived 'loophole' is people selling to each other...WHICH THEY CAN DO ANYWHERE AT ANYTIME ANYWAY!!! *&#%^@$@@)!! LIBERAL LOGIC!!!

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Post by SNL » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:43 pm

Whats a bbl shroud?

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Post by kokopelli » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:18 pm

SNL wrote:Whats a bbl shroud?

Are you nuts!? We all know that a 'barrel shroud' is so you don't burn your hands on a heated barrel after 'assaulting' innocent people!!!

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Post by dbh » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:23 pm

kokopelli wrote:I've never understood the 'gun show loophole'...????

I bought a used revolver at a gunshow and still had to fill out a 4473....where's the loophole?
I bought a used Kahr 2 gun shows ago with nothing more than a handshake.
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Post by son of liberty » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:30 pm

SNL wrote:Whats a bbl shroud?
its the shoulder thing that gose up.
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Post by kokopelli » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:31 pm

dbh wrote:
kokopelli wrote:I've never understood the 'gun show loophole'...????

I bought a used revolver at a gunshow and still had to fill out a 4473....where's the loophole?
I bought a used Kahr 2 gun shows ago with nothing more than a handshake.

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Post by jackalo626 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:40 pm

dbh wrote:
kokopelli wrote:I've never understood the 'gun show loophole'...????

I bought a used revolver at a gunshow and still had to fill out a 4473....where's the loophole?
I bought a used Kahr 2 gun shows ago with nothing more than a handshake.
You are the problem with this country :llama:

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Post by WLJ » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:40 pm

Q) Whats a bbl (barrel) shroud?

A) The shoulder thing that goes up

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Post by armygreen » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:09 pm

dbh wrote:I bought a used Kahr 2 gun shows ago with nothing more than a handshake.
and no money involved? ....are you sure that was his "hand"?

:mrgreen:

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Post by Frailer » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:10 pm

dbh wrote:...I bought a used Kahr 2 gun shows ago with nothing more than a handshake.
I've purchased a significant number of my firearms in Wal-Mart parking lots.

I *HATE* Wal-Mart, but I like their parking lots. :llama:

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Post by dbh » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:13 pm

armygreen wrote:
dbh wrote:I bought a used Kahr 2 gun shows ago with nothing more than a handshake.
and no money involved? ....are you sure that was his "hand"?

:mrgreen:
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Post by ChopperDoc » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:49 pm

Frailer wrote:
dbh wrote:...I bought a used Kahr 2 gun shows ago with nothing more than a handshake.
I've purchased a significant number of my firearms in Wal-Mart parking lots.

I *HATE* Wal-Mart, but I like their parking lots. :llama:

Just did a gun deal in a Wally World parking lot last night.

Always well lit and easy to find.
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Post by motoman883 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:51 am

walmart,krispy kreme,tire discounters,miejer,starbucks,red lobster,roosters,best buy parking lots day or night , thats were a 1/4 of mine came from. "The parking lot loophole" :llama: forgot home depot

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Post by armygreen » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:00 am

parking lot stories time?
first handgun i bought was transacted in the employee parking lot at UK, at a time when their policy is to fire anyone who has any kind of gun on campus even if just kept in their car. we were both UK employees. Thankfully (but sadly only recently) the KY supreme court shot down UK's rule saying employees are allowed to conceal in their vehicles. however, passing one from one car to another still wouldn't passed muster :D

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