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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Toddstang » Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:06 am

Everything is racist.
The coffee and doughnut that I had this morning were racist.
Racist is the new hip thing.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by iron369 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:45 am

Toddstang wrote:Everything is racist.
The coffee and doughnut that I had this morning were racist.
Racist is the new hip thing.
It’s been used so much for everything that it’s losing its stigma. If we all just accept that everything we are, do, see, read, believe, and consume is racism, then who cares about the label.
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:37 pm

The mayor's office believes amending state law is the answer, advocating for House Bill 325 which would allow for consolidated local governments to destroy confiscated guns.
https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/record/23RS/hb325.html

A similar bill has also been introduced in the Kentucky Senate, SB 168, which would go a step further to require the destruction of seized firearms.
https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/record/23rs/sb168.html

'It really doesn't do anything': Gun store questions impact of Louisville Mayor's seized firearm plan
https://www.whas11.com/article/news/loc ... 4b325216ed
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Toddstang » Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:11 pm

This may be the dumbest F*cking Mayor Louisville has ever had.
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:01 am

Discover Financial Services (DFS.N), a provider of credit cards, told Reuters it will allow its network to track purchases at gun retailers come April, making it the first among its peers to publicly give a date for moving ahead with the initiative, which is aimed at helping authorities probe gun-related crimes.
Exclusive: Discover to enable tracking of purchases at gun retailers from April
https://www.reuters.com/business/discov ... 023-02-17/
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Post by WLJ » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:08 am

Judge says that "Assault weapons" and "high cap" magazines aren't protected by the 2A because they're extra dangerous
A federal judge in Illinois has declined to put a stop to the state of Illinois’ new ban on so-called assault weapons, along with a similar prohibition locally imposed by the city of Naperville, ruling that the firearms in question aren’t protected by the Second Amendment in the first place.
In her ruling, Kendall wrote that the Illinois and Naperville bans meet that burden: “Because assault weapons are particularly dangerous weapons and high-capacity magazines are particularly dangerous weapon accessories, their regulation accords with history and tradition.
What history and tradition?

Federal judge says "assault weapons" not protected by the Second Amendment
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023 ... ent-n67535
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by PDM » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:36 am

WLJ wrote:
Discover Financial Services (DFS.N), a provider of credit cards, told Reuters it will allow its network to track purchases at gun retailers come April, making it the first among its peers to publicly give a date for moving ahead with the initiative, which is aimed at helping authorities probe gun-related crimes.
Exclusive: Discover to enable tracking of purchases at gun retailers from April
https://www.reuters.com/business/discov ... 023-02-17/
When are people going to realize that cash back and air miles aren't worth sleeping with the devil and ditch the big banks and credit cards. Some day people are going to look back at cc like we do cigarettes
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Toddstang » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:37 am

SCOTUS already ruled previously over this.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by iron369 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:11 pm

PDM wrote:
WLJ wrote:
Discover Financial Services (DFS.N), a provider of credit cards, told Reuters it will allow its network to track purchases at gun retailers come April, making it the first among its peers to publicly give a date for moving ahead with the initiative, which is aimed at helping authorities probe gun-related crimes.
Exclusive: Discover to enable tracking of purchases at gun retailers from April
https://www.reuters.com/business/discov ... 023-02-17/
When are people going to realize that cash back and air miles aren't worth sleeping with the devil and ditch the big banks and credit cards. Some day people are going to look back at cc like we do cigarettes
So what’s the alternative? As our world moves closer and closer to the digital only currency, we still have no viable options for exchange other than fiat and bitcoin. And regulators will destroy and demonize bitcoin before they ever let loose of any money control. They already have been.
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by iron369 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:12 pm

Toddstang wrote:SCOTUS already ruled previously over this.
Hahaha. You think that matters anymore?
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by KYgundude » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:31 pm

iron369 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:11 pm
PDM wrote:
WLJ wrote:
Discover Financial Services (DFS.N), a provider of credit cards, told Reuters it will allow its network to track purchases at gun retailers come April, making it the first among its peers to publicly give a date for moving ahead with the initiative, which is aimed at helping authorities probe gun-related crimes.
Exclusive: Discover to enable tracking of purchases at gun retailers from April
https://www.reuters.com/business/discov ... 023-02-17/
When are people going to realize that cash back and air miles aren't worth sleeping with the devil and ditch the big banks and credit cards. Some day people are going to look back at cc like we do cigarettes
So what’s the alternative? As our world moves closer and closer to the digital only currency, we still have no viable options for exchange other than fiat and bitcoin. And regulators will destroy and demonize bitcoin before they ever let loose of any money control. They already have been.
I use a paypal debit card. I work for a bank and don't want them knowing my business so I already avoided firearms purchases on my debit with them. paypal I suppose knows I bought guns but the bank doesn't know why my paypal account pulled in more from my bank account. Bank doesn't know my business, but paypal does.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by plumber_bob » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:59 pm

I buy local and with cash.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Toddstang » Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:35 pm

iron369 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:12 pm
Toddstang wrote:SCOTUS already ruled previously over this.
Hahaha. You think that matters anymore?
With the ruling only a few weeks ago, yes.



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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Rem700 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:42 pm

iron369 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:11 pm
PDM wrote:
WLJ wrote:
Discover Financial Services (DFS.N), a provider of credit cards, told Reuters it will allow its network to track purchases at gun retailers come April, making it the first among its peers to publicly give a date for moving ahead with the initiative, which is aimed at helping authorities probe gun-related crimes.
Exclusive: Discover to enable tracking of purchases at gun retailers from April
https://www.reuters.com/business/discov ... 023-02-17/
When are people going to realize that cash back and air miles aren't worth sleeping with the devil and ditch the big banks and credit cards. Some day people are going to look back at cc like we do cigarettes
So what’s the alternative? As our world moves closer and closer to the digital only currency, we still have no viable options for exchange other than fiat and bitcoin. And regulators will destroy and demonize bitcoin before they ever let loose of any money control. They already have been.
Pay cash. I don't doubt digital currency will be a thing in the future (if the idiot masses allow it)....but right now its not even close.
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by iron369 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:05 pm

Rem700 wrote:
iron369 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:11 pm
PDM wrote:
WLJ wrote:
Discover Financial Services (DFS.N), a provider of credit cards, told Reuters it will allow its network to track purchases at gun retailers come April, making it the first among its peers to publicly give a date for moving ahead with the initiative, which is aimed at helping authorities probe gun-related crimes.
Exclusive: Discover to enable tracking of purchases at gun retailers from April
https://www.reuters.com/business/discov ... 023-02-17/
When are people going to realize that cash back and air miles aren't worth sleeping with the devil and ditch the big banks and credit cards. Some day people are going to look back at cc like we do cigarettes
So what’s the alternative? As our world moves closer and closer to the digital only currency, we still have no viable options for exchange other than fiat and bitcoin. And regulators will destroy and demonize bitcoin before they ever let loose of any money control. They already have been.
Pay cash. I don't doubt digital currency will be a thing in the future (if the idiot masses allow it)....but right now its not even close.
Hardly anyone under the age of 30 knows how to count out change. They can’t pay cash. Or receive it as payment. Everything is already digital. Still get a paper paycheck? Seen a cashier take someone’s check, scan it, and give it right back to the person? A cbdc is already in the process of being developed and younger people are more than willing to not use cash ever again.
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by iron369 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:08 pm

iron369 wrote:
Rem700 wrote:
iron369 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:11 pm
PDM wrote:
WLJ wrote:
Discover Financial Services (DFS.N), a provider of credit cards, told Reuters it will allow its network to track purchases at gun retailers come April, making it the first among its peers to publicly give a date for moving ahead with the initiative, which is aimed at helping authorities probe gun-related crimes.
Exclusive: Discover to enable tracking of purchases at gun retailers from April
https://www.reuters.com/business/discov ... 023-02-17/
When are people going to realize that cash back and air miles aren't worth sleeping with the devil and ditch the big banks and credit cards. Some day people are going to look back at cc like we do cigarettes
So what’s the alternative? As our world moves closer and closer to the digital only currency, we still have no viable options for exchange other than fiat and bitcoin. And regulators will destroy and demonize bitcoin before they ever let loose of any money control. They already have been.
Pay cash. I don't doubt digital currency will be a thing in the future (if the idiot masses allow it)....but right now its not even close.
Hardly anyone under the age of 30 knows how to count out change. They can’t pay cash. Or receive it as payment. Everything is already digital. Still get a paper paycheck? Seen a cashier take someone’s check, scan it, and give it right back to the person? A cbdc is already in the process of being developed and younger people are more than willing to not use cash ever again.
That is why the government controlled media constantly has to tell everyone how terrible bitcoin is and how only criminals use it for black market transactions for drugs and buying kiddie porn. They don’t have any way to manipulate it and can’t buy it all.
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Dave1965 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:59 am

Cash will be gone soon, especially since its not controllable for the most part (especially if you save a little back at a time). Germany got rid of the Deutschemark when it went to euros but people still use the DM.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by KYgundude » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:49 pm

I think the future of cash is limited. The small percentage they pay to the processor for card transactions, makes it more financially efficient to only accept plastic. It costs money to accept cash. You have to take trips to the bank, count tills, deal with shortages. Card processing is as easy as a small report that spits out of the card reader at the end of the day.

As soon as they are no longer legally bound to accept cash, I suspect many places will not.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Rem700 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:51 pm

KYgundude wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:49 pm
I think the future of cash is limited. The small percentage they pay to the processor for card transactions, makes it more financially efficient to only accept plastic. It costs money to accept cash. You have to take trips to the bank, count tills, deal with shortages. Card processing is as easy as a small report that spits out of the card reader at the end of the day.

As soon as they are no longer legally bound to accept cash, I suspect many places will not.
That's the kicker. It takes an act of Congress to change the law on a federal level.....and we all know how efficient they are at getting anything done. Plus all their friends (donors, lobbyists, etc) like cash for the "tax advantaged" under the table gifting abilities. So I dont see it going away anytime soon. But i have been wrong before.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by plumber_bob » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:33 pm

Rem700 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:51 pm
KYgundude wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:49 pm
I think the future of cash is limited. The small percentage they pay to the processor for card transactions, makes it more financially efficient to only accept plastic. It costs money to accept cash. You have to take trips to the bank, count tills, deal with shortages. Card processing is as easy as a small report that spits out of the card reader at the end of the day.

As soon as they are no longer legally bound to accept cash, I suspect many places will not.
That's the kicker. It takes an act of Congress to change the law on a federal level.....and we all know how efficient they are at getting anything done. Plus all their friends (donors, lobbyists, etc) like cash for the "tax advantaged" under the table gifting abilities. So I dont see it going away anytime soon. But i have been wrong before.
The, Under World, wouldn't stand for it!
They are a cash only business for the most part.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by KYgundude » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:02 pm

plumber_bob wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:33 pm
Rem700 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:51 pm
KYgundude wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:49 pm
I think the future of cash is limited. The small percentage they pay to the processor for card transactions, makes it more financially efficient to only accept plastic. It costs money to accept cash. You have to take trips to the bank, count tills, deal with shortages. Card processing is as easy as a small report that spits out of the card reader at the end of the day.

As soon as they are no longer legally bound to accept cash, I suspect many places will not.
That's the kicker. It takes an act of Congress to change the law on a federal level.....and we all know how efficient they are at getting anything done. Plus all their friends (donors, lobbyists, etc) like cash for the "tax advantaged" under the table gifting abilities. So I dont see it going away anytime soon. But i have been wrong before.
The, Under World, wouldn't stand for it!
They are a cash only business for the most part.

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Post by Rem700 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:53 pm

Dont forget the oldest form of barter......hookers!
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Re: Gun Control Watch

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KYgundude wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:49 pm
I think the future of cash is limited. The small percentage they pay to the processor for card transactions, makes it more financially efficient to only accept plastic. It costs money to accept cash. You have to take trips to the bank, count tills, deal with shortages. Card processing is as easy as a small report that spits out of the card reader at the end of the day.

As soon as they are no longer legally bound to accept cash, I suspect many places will not.
:lol: :lol: Small percentage adds up. Having owned businesses, I hated credit cards but everyone seems to depend on them and at the end of the month you see you have given away a FORTUNE sometimes. Plus there are hefty security fees each year, fees for services, fees for this and that....it never ends.

I always pay my mechanic in cash (he has started adding 3-4% to bills for CC, he won't say that but cash gets a discount). I pay cash for guns because some places charge more for plastic (at least 3 I frequent...giving you discount for cash) because profit on new guns is not so great for most that are competitive. I will take cash and even checks most days and deal with the hassle. Going to the bank isn't a problem. Mine are everywhere.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by KYgundude » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:50 pm

Dave1965 wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:47 am
KYgundude wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:49 pm
I think the future of cash is limited. The small percentage they pay to the processor for card transactions, makes it more financially efficient to only accept plastic. It costs money to accept cash. You have to take trips to the bank, count tills, deal with shortages. Card processing is as easy as a small report that spits out of the card reader at the end of the day.

As soon as they are no longer legally bound to accept cash, I suspect many places will not.
:lol: :lol: Small percentage adds up. Having owned businesses, I hated credit cards but everyone seems to depend on them and at the end of the month you see you have given away a FORTUNE sometimes. Plus there are hefty security fees each year, fees for services, fees for this and that....it never ends.

I always pay my mechanic in cash (he has started adding 3-4% to bills for CC, he won't say that but cash gets a discount). I pay cash for guns because some places charge more for plastic (at least 3 I frequent...giving you discount for cash) because profit on new guns is not so great for most that are competitive. I will take cash and even checks most days and deal with the hassle. Going to the bank isn't a problem. Mine are everywhere.
Agreed. I pay big box companies with my debit card but small businesses always get cash. They get screwed hardest on the fees.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:30 am

Bans the online sale of ammo
Also requires the reporting of the selling of more than 1k rounds within a five day period to an "unlicensed" person

HR 584
To require face-to-face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-con ... 4%22%5D%7D
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