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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:44 am

plumber_bob wrote:
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Not sure if the ATF could request CC records as well.
They seem to be able to do what ever they want.

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The ATF obtained the information about the customers from two sources that the agency subpoenaed. The first source was Stamps.com. (see the page marked “36” of the ATF Warrant embedded below) Stamps.com turned over the shipping information of Polymer80 customers to the ATF when the agency served them the subpoena. Polymer80’s credit card processing company, Authorize.net, also turned over credit card information to the ATF.
Stamps.com & Authorize.net Rat-Out Polymer80’s Customers, ATF Raid Reason ~ VIDEO
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Dustin » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:39 am

If the ATF shows up for you p80 lower. Here is some helpful legal info.

https://blog.princelaw.com/2020/12/14/i ... otest/amp/
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by plumber_bob » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:50 am

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I remember that scene well!
And think about it often.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:12 am

Saw a video on this yesterday but kind of blew it off until I saw more on it but it's appears it's making the rounds now.
This is suppose to be coming from a former ATF agent but in a nutshell the AR-10/15 family of firearms have a split receiver(s) which means, according to the video, the lower does not meet the legal def of a firearm as spelled out in the Fed Gun Control Act of 1968. Apparently there's already been some court cases affirming this.
I'm not sure what effect(s) this could have on anything, it could be nothing or it could be huge. But ATF could just thumb their noses at it and/or the Dems could rush a new bill through. This also effects other "firearms" as well. Stay tune.


Former ATF Agent Testifies AR Receivers Don't Meet Legal Definition
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Re: Gun Control Watch

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News from Ohio
Everyone expected him to veto it

Gun rights groups happy as Gov. Mike DeWine signs 'stand your ground' legislation into law
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/pol ... 008228001/
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Re: Gun Control Watch

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Wow!

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Re: Gun Control Watch

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:14 am

HR8 - (Universal background checks (which is basically pointless without registration )) and HR 1446 - (Unlimited, or up to 30 days depending on how you read the bill, background check holds that can only be cleared up by the customer filing a petition for review) are coming up to bat next week.

The Dark Side of the Universal Background Check Bill HR8
https://www.ammoland.com/2019/08/the-da ... z6oL7DDYDO

Enhanced Background Check Act 2021 (HR 1446) Explained
https://rocketffl.com/enhanced-backgrou ... 1-hr-1446/

'A Huge Moment': Gun Safety Groups Hopeful About Bipartisan Background Checks Bill
https://www.newsweek.com/huge-moment-gu ... ll-1573282

HR8 & HR1446 Officially On House Schedule For Next Week
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Toecutter1978 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:11 pm

It passed the house.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Toddstang » Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:16 pm

President Pelosi is moist.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:21 pm

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It passed the house.
Both HR 8 & HR 1446
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Re: Gun Control Watch

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Assault Weapons Ban of 2021 Submitted in the House


The Bill
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public ... f-2021.pdf
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Elkins45 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:45 pm

Toecutter1978 wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:11 pm
It passed the house.
Passing the House was a foregone conclusion. The Senate is the only place it might stand a chance of being stopped.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by plumber_bob » Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:53 pm

Elkins45 wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:45 pm
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Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:11 pm
It passed the house.
Passing the House was a foregone conclusion. The Senate is the only place it might stand a chance of being stopped.
Time will tell.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by jmeister » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:42 pm

WLJ wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:44 am
Assault Weapons Ban of 2021 Submitted in the House
HR 1808
introduced yesterday 3/11, 194 co sponsors

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Dave1965 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:13 pm

so you can keep what you got....

but then later says you can sell it thru a dealer ..??

So prices rise as things become extinct? Nothing about ammunition.

exempts sks and ruger mini 14s hmmmm

magazines going forward have to be marked with serial number and date....

Anyone else read the entire bill? Someone did a bunch of listing of vague and obscure hunting rifles.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Toecutter1978 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:43 pm

I just hope that the folks that voted dem because orange man bad are happy with their choice. Fuck

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:52 pm

Toecutter1978 wrote:
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I just hope that the folks that voted dem because orange man bad are happy with their choice. Fuck
They'll be upset only if and when the MSM tells them they need to be upset
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Toecutter1978 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:55 pm

WLJ wrote:
Toecutter1978 wrote:
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I just hope that the folks that voted dem because orange man bad are happy with their choice. Fuck
They'll be upset only if the MSM tells them they need to be upset
Then you have the people that did not even bother to vote. Ugh, I don’t know, may be they are even worse as they will complain even more about how bad it is.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:46 am

Biden Administration Urges Supreme Court To Let Cops Enter Homes And Seize Guns Without A Warrant
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Re: Gun Control Watch

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Nazi leadership at its best.

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