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Post by ChickenLady » Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:34 pm

This week (since Monday):
-A 1 year old accidentally shot and killed himself
-A 14 year old held his entire class hostage at gun-point
-An armed man was shot down in a Philadelphia courthouse
-A Kentucky man was shot while selling a firearm
-An 8-year-old accidentally shot another 8-year-old in school
-A toddler and his father were both shot outside their home in Louisiana
-A reporter and her camera-man were both fatally shot while giving a live news report
And besides those wonderful highlights in the last 48-hours in America, there have been 166 separate shootings. Still think the problem is we don't have enough guns?
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Post by Dave1965 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:06 pm

Where is the other side of the story where the guns (by themselves) stopped crimes???

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Post by Robert Paulson » Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:55 pm

Does this mean joes guns are forsale?
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Post by WLJ » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:43 pm

Because we all know no one was ever killed before guns. It all started with guns don't you know?
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Post by PDM » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:48 pm

I know 4 people that have been assaulted with something other than a gun or bare hands. I only know one that has been shot at. (other than mil/leo)
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Post by ChopperDoc » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:19 pm

We shall see how 2014 and 2015 turn out.
Fatal Accident data 1999 to 2013.JPG

although "non-firearm" fatal accidents are not specifically listed I find it interesting that accidental poisoning beat out auto accidents for the top spot in the fatal accident top ten for 2013. Over 30k died from some kind of accident involving breathing or ingesting some product which ended them.
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Post by ChopperDoc » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:23 pm

and violent crime is down... again...
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Justified homicides in this comparison are only civilian, not LEO.
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Post by Niceguy » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:39 pm

From 1999-2013...That is awesome!
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Post by Gunsmokin » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:54 pm

Your facts are meaningless, as they don't further the anti-gun agenda.
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Post by jackalo626 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:31 am

^ Correct

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Post by kokopelli » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:11 am

I reject your reality and substitute my own

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Post by ChickenLady » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:12 pm

This one was posted by a Canadian Friend with the caption "when is the neighbors down south going to get their shit together"
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Post by ssracer » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:24 pm

They want to blame the gun, so they only look at "gun murders"...and I'd be willing to bet that number includes gang bangers shot by police. They never look at overall violent crime rates because we are far from the top of that list

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Post by WLJ » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:53 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... icide_rate
US is 112th out of 218 in murder rate when you sort this list by rate.
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Post by ChopperDoc » Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:53 pm

that number includes both suicides AND police shootings of scumbags. If you zoom in real close to the citation it also includes all 500-ish annual fatal firearms accidents.


These people have no shame, dignity, or scruples. They will lie abashedly to push their agenda.
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Post by ChopperDoc » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:17 pm

this, however, may be a good idea...

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Post by PDM » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:39 pm

Nice, CD
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Post by ChopperDoc » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:52 pm

A complicit media is the most important piece of a successful propaganda campaign.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015082 ... rd-science
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Post by ChickenLady » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:07 am

And another one...

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Post by WLJ » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:20 am

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Post by WLJ » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:23 am

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Post by WLJ » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:28 am

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Post by ChopperDoc » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:03 am

ChickenLady wrote:And another one...

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Now this one is just funny. Almost as funny as the Governor of Virginia stating that we need new laws on background checks after "this tragedy" completely oblivious to the fact that the guy passed a background check and the Virginia waiting period before carrying out his meticulously premeditated murder spree.
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