Theater Shooting LaFayette LA

[WLJ]

Ban Baptist!!!!

not all baptist are like that.


Sent from somewhere over yonder.

He was obviously being sarcastic despite the lack of a llama

[Niceguy]

Yes, I'm Baptist...haha

[ssracer]

Seen some stuff on the internet trying to connect him (the shooter) with Westboro Baptist Church.
Don't know if it's true or not.

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That, in my mind at least, doesn't actually connect him with the WBC but just like with Roof and the Confederate flag it'll be enough for many.

i agree

[WLJ]

He has a profile created by the website Tea Party Nation. And on PoliticalForum.com, he left hundreds of messages espousing anti-government, anti-media views.

Here we go

"Obviously the audience was laughing, maybe that made him angry," Mann speculated. "I don't know. But why did he pick that movie? It's just very strange."

Ban laughing

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/us/louisi ... index.html

[jackalo626]

Ban Baptist!!!!

Just the extremists lol

[kokopelli]

you silly white people, with your privilege and your guns...

[WLJ]

Hi-Point 40

Louisiana theater shooter purchased gun legally, police say
http://www.wave3.com/story/29622017/lou ... police-say

[ssracer]

So once again it seems that laws already on the books failed because local law enforcement had information on this guy that never made it to the federal NICS system?

[Gunsmokin]

Bush's fault

[WLJ]

Another view point on the gun purchase legality

Lafayette Theater Shooter’s Pistol Purchase Was Not, In Fact, Legal
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/0 ... act-legal/

[guncrank1]

No in fact it was a not legal sale.

He lied on 4473 at least twice and a NICS check would have pinged him if all the correct info was in the system.

[guncrank1]

Also unknown if AL uses NICS or not.

[jackalo626]

No in fact it was a not legal sale.

He lied on 4473 at least twice and a NICS check would have pinged him if all the correct info was in the system.

Your opinion, is it the sellers fault or buyers fault?

[guncrank1]

No in fact it was a not legal sale.

He lied on 4473 at least twice and a NICS check would have pinged him if all the correct info was in the system.

Your opinion, is it the sellers fault or buyers fault?

As FFL I depend on the honesty of person who fills out the 4473 and NICS review.
Or the state for correct peaple getting the CDWL.

It is up to the FFL to determan if transfer is legal from all information collected.

So that could be from background info that you know already on the person.
From the small talk or from FB or anywhere else it may come from.
The way the person appears at your counter and thier actions.

So if this guy walked into pawn shop and acted " normal" and filled out the form and passed a background check due to faulty reporting on the state error , then the fault is with the dude who killed the peaple in the movie in LA.

[jackalo626]

No in fact it was a not legal sale.

He lied on 4473 at least twice and a NICS check would have pinged him if all the correct info was in the system.

Your opinion, is it the sellers fault or buyers fault?

As FFL I depend on the honesty of person who fills out the 4473 and NICS review.
Or the state for correct peaple getting the CDWL.

It is up to the FFL to determan if transfer is legal from all information collected.

So that could be from background info that you know already on the person.
From the small talk or from FB or anywhere else it may come from.
The way the person appears at your counter and thier actions.

So if this guy walked into pawn shop and acted " normal" and filled out the form and passed a background check due to faulty reporting on the state error , then the fault is with the dude who killed the peaple in the movie in LA.

Of course we know who is responsible for the shooting but I am asking about the transaction alone. Everybody is different and judging a person from 5min of filling out the paperwork for a gun isn't a realistic or accurate approach to determining a person's sanity. Only person in the wrong here is the shooter for the deaths. Every killer, robber, rapist, etc was once clean as a whistle and that first time is always their first time and was no way predictable.

[guncrank1]

No in fact it was a not legal sale.

He lied on 4473 at least twice and a NICS check would have pinged him if all the correct info was in the system.

Your opinion, is it the sellers fault or buyers fault?

As FFL I depend on the honesty of person who fills out the 4473 and NICS review.
Or the state for correct peaple getting the CDWL.

It is up to the FFL to determan if transfer is legal from all information collected.

So that could be from background info that you know already on the person.
From the small talk or from FB or anywhere else it may come from.
The way the person appears at your counter and thier actions.




So if this guy walked into pawn shop and acted " normal" and filled out the form and passed a background check due to faulty reporting on the state error , then the fault is with the dude who killed the peaple in the movie in LA.

Of course we know who is responsible for the shooting but I am asking about the transaction alone. Everybody is different and judging a person from 5min of filling out the paperwork for a gun isn't a realistic or accurate approach to determining a person's sanity. Only person in the wrong here is the shooter for the deaths. Every killer, robber, rapist, etc was once clean as a whistle and that first time is always their first time and was no way predictable.

This guy had several( or even one ) factors that would making a sale to him illegal.

The Pawn shop got a proceed and the guy filled out the form yes and then the rest no , that is what the FFL had to go on.

[guncrank1]

Judging sanity is not a FFLs perview, determining the legality of a over the counter transfer is.
And the gulity of the transaction was on the buyer.
He lied plain and simple.
His sanity at the time is not a factor for the FFL -the pawn shop.

The system fucked up two times now and made headlines.

You watch the next " common sense gun law " will be a national card , like IL firearms owners card where you can only buy with the card.

And this is not a new idea. A national dealers assocation proposed that in the 1980's.

[jackalo626]

No in fact it was a not legal sale.

He lied on 4473 at least twice and a NICS check would have pinged him if all the correct info was in the system.

Your opinion, is it the sellers fault or buyers fault?

As FFL I depend on the honesty of person who fills out the 4473 and NICS review.
Or the state for correct peaple getting the CDWL.

It is up to the FFL to determan if transfer is legal from all information collected.

So that could be from background info that you know already on the person.
From the small talk or from FB or anywhere else it may come from.
The way the person appears at your counter and thier actions.




So if this guy walked into pawn shop and acted " normal" and filled out the form and passed a background check due to faulty reporting on the state error , then the fault is with the dude who killed the peaple in the movie in LA.

Of course we know who is responsible for the shooting but I am asking about the transaction alone. Everybody is different and judging a person from 5min of filling out the paperwork for a gun isn't a realistic or accurate approach to determining a person's sanity. Only person in the wrong here is the shooter for the deaths. Every killer, robber, rapist, etc was once clean as a whistle and that first time is always their first time and was no way predictable.

This guy had several( or even one ) factors that would making a sale to him illegal.

The Pawn shop got a proceed and the guy filled out the form yes and then the rest no , that is what the FFL had to go on.

You say the sale to him is illegal but you blame him for lying so the sale was legal but his purchase illegal (your meaning). The sale is legal or illegal? Are you meaning the purchase is illegal and his fault or the ffl? I am trying to understand your take but I am having trouble understanding your answer.

[jackalo626]

Judging sanity is not a FFLs perview, determining the legality of a over the counter transfer is.
And the gulity of the transaction was on the buyer.
He lied plain and simple.
His sanity at the time is not a factor for the FFL -the pawn shop.

The system fucked up two times now and made headlines.

You watch the next " common sense gun law " will be a national card , like IL firearms owners card where you can only buy with the card.

And this is not a new idea. A national dealers assocation proposed that in the 1980's.

You mentioned it was small talk that helped you decide so if his sanity isn't that focus other than lying I don't know what your small talk would have to do with it. He either says he is buying it to fight off purple dragons in the ice castle (insane) or he admits to buying it to kill people (insane). I don't know what else the small talk would show. I am not in your shoes and am just curious as to your view on it.

[guncrank1]

The 4473 is what is determined the transfer is legal or not.
The FFL uses the answers and the NICS to determine that.

[guncrank1]

Small talk and judging a person by looks and action is what a FFL uses to judge whether to allow the buyer to fillout the form.

[jackalo626]

Small talk and judging a person by looks and action is what a FFL uses to judge whether to allow the buyer to fillout the form.

Meaning if they seem insane you don't let them. IE judging their sanity without having qualifications to do so. An FFL holder isn't a psychiatrist so their judgement based on a 15 min interaction with a person filling out a form is comical to me in judging their "qualifications" to purchase a gun. Not an offensive statement to ffl holders but quite the opposite, I don't believe you should be responsible for cross examining a person buying a gun for bad intent possibly.

[jackalo626]

Small talk and judging a person by looks and action is what a FFL uses to judge whether to allow the buyer to fillout the form.

So did the ffl in this case fail?

[guncrank1]

Small talk and judging a person by looks and action is what a FFL uses to judge whether to allow the buyer to fillout the form.

So did the ffl in this case fail?

Unknown ,not my problem.
I only gave the opionon on if the sale to the guy was legal or not.

[jackalo626]

Small talk and judging a person by looks and action is what a FFL uses to judge whether to allow the buyer to fillout the form.

So did the ffl in this case fail?

Unknown ,not my problem.
I only gave the opionon on if the sale to the guy was legal or not.

You said it was the ffl who determined if the sale was legal or not so they are at fault of an illegal sale, I understand now. Thanks for reply.