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Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:50 pm
by Rem700
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/02 ... marijuana/

Alaska becomes the third state to legalize rec use.

DC will follow soon

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/02 ... this-week/

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:52 pm
by Rem700
and then there is this......

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/c ... ck-babies/

cause im sure that the legalization is what caused these morons to use it. Im sure they weren't already doing it......

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:37 pm
by WLJ
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Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:21 pm
by 1fastmach1
I call bullshit.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:21 pm
by Rem700
1fastmach1 wrote:I call bullshit.
On what?

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:56 pm
by son of liberty
Rem700 wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:I call bullshit.
On what?
tourettes, try not to draw attention to it.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:15 pm
by 1fastmach1
Rem700 wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:I call bullshit.
On what?
I guess I should have been more specific. I was referring to the article related to pregnancy. Although, I'm not going to get into a debate about pot as it relates to pregnancy and more importantly pot at all.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:17 pm
by 1fastmach1
son of liberty wrote:
Rem700 wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:I call bullshit.
On what?
tourettes, try not to draw attention to it.
Now what if I actually had Tourette's?

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:18 pm
by Whootsinator
We'd make fun of you, more likely than not.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:21 pm
by Dave1965
Unfortunately we spend way too much on fighting a losing battle over pot. I have never and hope to never have to use it but it's about to the point the benefit would be to legalize and tax the hell out of it. Develop a sobriety test for its use and not allow to drive under its influence. Impairment does occur so would need to stop use of machinery while under the influence. Take the drug cartels out of importing it and concentrate on the narcotics.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:24 pm
by Toecutter1978
Only thing in danger when folks smoke is a bag of chips, or slightly stale sleeve of crackers.


When with child, there are so many things a mom can and should not ingest.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:25 pm
by 1fastmach1
Whootsinator wrote:We'd make fun of you, more likely than not.
That pretty insensitive considering you don't even know me. Not that I actually care.

Imagine this...

You've got a handicapped child. A group of people laugh and point at you while standing in linear the grocery all the while saying, hey look at the retard and his parent. How would that make you feel?

Now, if we were "bros" and you cracked a joke. Haha... Fair game... We aren't bros.

But really, I'm honestly not a sensitive person and you wouldn't hurt my feelings.

Cheers!

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:34 pm
by 1fastmach1
Dave1965 wrote:Unfortunately we spend way too much on fighting a losing battle over pot. I have never and hope to never have to use it but it's about to the point the benefit would be to legalize and tax the hell out of it. Develop a sobriety test for its use and not allow to drive under its influence. Impairment does occur so would need to stop use of machinery while under the influence. Take the drug cartels out of importing it and concentrate on the narcotics.
I couldn't agree more.

Look at the revenue it has generated for one state alone. I'm not going to compare it to legal drugs that are used and discussed on this forum by even myself, but if it puts more money back into my pocket as a direct result, I'm all for it. Compare pot related issues to alcohol related issue. I see alcohol as a far more serious concern. Alcohol has affected chunks of my family and many others. Prolly even people that have commented in this thread.

That said, even I enjoy a good aged bourbon and a premium cigar.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:44 pm
by Whootsinator
1fastmach1 wrote:Imagine this...

You've got a handicapped child. A group of people laugh and point at you while standing in linear the grocery all the while saying, hey look at the retard and his parent. How would that make you feel?

Now, if we were "bros" and you cracked a joke. Haha... Fair game... We aren't bros.

But really, I'm honestly not a sensitive person and you wouldn't hurt my feelings.

Cheers!
Having never been in that situation, I'm not sure. If I had Tourette's syndrome and SoL's comment was directed at me I'd probably laugh because it was funny. Either SoL couldn't have known I had Tourette's syndrome over the internet and I wouldn't have taken it personally, OR SoL made the comment because he did know and was in fact 'my bro'. The internet isn't the place for sensitivities.

It's not my choice to not be able to grow a respectable beard. I have facial hair that grows in to look like Joe Dirt. Regardless of whether I chose it or not, I've been made fun of for it here. My response is usually to laugh, shoot something witty right back at them, or most often both. Everyone laughs and the world goes on.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:54 pm
by 1fastmach1
Whootsinator wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:Imagine this...

You've got a handicapped child. A group of people laugh and point at you while standing in linear the grocery all the while saying, hey look at the retard and his parent. How would that make you feel?

Now, if we were "bros" and you cracked a joke. Haha... Fair game... We aren't bros.

But really, I'm honestly not a sensitive person and you wouldn't hurt my feelings.

Cheers!
Having never been in that situation, I'm not sure. If I had Tourette's syndrome and SoL's comment was directed at me I'd probably laugh because it was funny. Either Dave couldn't have known I had Tourette's syndrome over the internet and I wouldn't have taken it personally, OR Dave made the comment because he did know and was in fact 'my bro'. The internet isn't the place for sensitivities.

It's not my choice to not be able to grow a respectable beard. I have facial hair that grows in to look like Joe Dirt. Regardless of whether I chose it or not, I've been made fun of for it here. My response is usually to laugh, shoot something witty right back at them, or most often both. Everyone laughs and the world goes on.
Booooooo. Well played. I'll just go ahead and sit back down.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:55 pm
by Ar-Rob
hahahaha you said import,this is Kentucky

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:55 pm
by son of liberty
1fastmach1 wrote:
Whootsinator wrote:We'd make fun of you, more likely than not.
That pretty insensitive considering you don't even know me. Not that I actually care.

Imagine this...

You've got a handicapped child. A group of people laugh and point at you while standing in linear the grocery all the while saying, hey look at the retard and his parent. How would that make you feel?

Now, if we were "bros" and you cracked a joke. Haha... Fair game... We aren't bros.

But really, I'm honestly not a sensitive person and you wouldn't hurt my feelings.

Cheers!

No worse then a store full of people trying to play off like the kid aint screaming "Dick Sucker" , "Face Fucker" , "Ass Face", then whispering and passing what they think is a suddle facial expression to others. Trust me bro, the kid hollering "Ass " all the time, knows somethings up with that, and the first thing im doing ......inviting him to come to church with me.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:01 pm
by 1fastmach1
son of liberty wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:
Whootsinator wrote:We'd make fun of you, more likely than not.
That pretty insensitive considering you don't even know me. Not that I actually care.

Imagine this...

You've got a handicapped child. A group of people laugh and point at you while standing in linear the grocery all the while saying, hey look at the retard and his parent. How would that make you feel?

Now, if we were "bros" and you cracked a joke. Haha... Fair game... We aren't bros.

But really, I'm honestly not a sensitive person and you wouldn't hurt my feelings.

Cheers!

No worse then a store full of people trying to play off like the kid aint screaming "Dick Sucker" , "Face Fucker" , "Ass Face", then whispering and passing what they think is a suddle facial expression to others. Trust me bro, the kid hollering "Ass " all the time, knows somethings up with that, and the first thing im doing ......inviting him to come to church with me.
Haha. That reminds me of Jamis Winston standing on a table in the commons at FSU hollering "fuck her right in the *****". Boy I sure miss college.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:03 pm
by Ar-Rob
We have a problem with prescription drugs in this state because enough politicians are under the big money of the drug companies.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:04 pm
by 1fastmach1
Ar-Rob wrote:We have a problem with prescription drugs in this state because enough politicians are under the big money of the drug companies.
Prescription medication and heroin are serious problems in our area. Because of the stringent laws on pills, heroin has made a real comeback. We traded one evil for another.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:07 pm
by Ar-Rob
1fastmach1 wrote:
Ar-Rob wrote:We have a problem with prescription drugs in this state because enough politicians are under the big money of the drug companies.
Prescription medication and heroin are serious problems in our area. Because of the stringent laws on pills, heroin has made a real comeback. We traded one evil for another.
They cracked down on pot so meth came back,now they cracked down on meth and we have heroin.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:21 pm
by 1fastmach1
Ar-Rob wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:
Ar-Rob wrote:We have a problem with prescription drugs in this state because enough politicians are under the big money of the drug companies.
Prescription medication and heroin are serious problems in our area. Because of the stringent laws on pills, heroin has made a real comeback. We traded one evil for another.
They cracked down on pot so meth came back,now they cracked down on meth and we have heroin.
You can't be serious. Those have no correlation to each other. I don't speak from any experience but I don't have any friends, future or present that bought meth or heroin because they couldn't find a bag of pot.

If you ran out of cigarettes or alcohol, are you gonna go buy some crack rock? Lol

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:32 pm
by Ar-Rob
They are cheap highs.It's about supply and demand.If there isn't their drug of choice they find something else. Say your local store quits carrying your favorite whatever but they have something else that has the same end result,are you going to try it?

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:39 pm
by 1fastmach1
Ar-Rob wrote:They are cheap highs.It's about supply and demand.If there isn't their drug of choice they find something else. Say your local store quits carrying your favorite whatever but they have something else that has the same end result,are you going to try it?
So if shooting heroin and smoking a joint produce the same effect, why would someone risk their life to use heroin instead of that joint? Remember, it's the same effect. Also, no shortage of pot here or anywhere else for that matter.

Re: Legalization of Pot is spreading....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:56 pm
by Gunsmokin
Guess I will dip my toe in this debate. My 2 cents. I don't partake in the wacky weed. Full disclosure, I have tried it back in the 80's as a high school student, nothing more than that. FWIW, I have heard people being interviewed who say there is some evidence that the heroin problem has spiked up bc the oxy prescription drug crack-down. I don't claim that they are correct or not. It's just out there as a possibility. The legalization issue with pot, IMHO, has to be weighed with and against the known problems of drug abuse ongoing in our commonwealth.

A little real-life anecdotal evidence, of which, I have first hand knowledge. My wife's first cousin was injured at work several years ago working on a loading dock. Her cousin's back was hurt when he was hit by a fork truck. Actually, it was a skid of materials that hit him. He was put on disability and prescribed pain meds. Over time, he would either need a stronger prescription or more frequent doses. He lives in a state with legalized medical MJ. Using MJ to quell the pain has virtually eliminated the other narcotic based pain meds for him. He has started working a full-time job and has a productive life. On OxyContin or other narcs he did not.

Does this prove or disprove any position? No. Does it mean there is room for the possibility that MJ has real-world benefits for people suffering? Of course.

Personally, I am torn as far as legalization goes. I wouldn't start smoking it if it were legalized. The way I look at it is, if you have a terminal or chronic disease, who am I to dictate what will give relief to you?