Shotgun plugs, clay pigeons and the law?

Post by **ProCroation** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:38 pm

I'm at a family event all day today. The whole family (and several family friends) are all lined up playing rounds of "knock out" with clays. An off duty cop here that's a friend to my cousin, freaks out when he sees me load 4+1 in my new 870. Tells me it's illegal even for clays. Says the game warden who lives down the road could cite me. It came with a plug not installed but included in the box. Something doesn't sound right. I told him I wasn't stopping participation and might put the plug in when I'm home.

What say you? Illegal? Or no?

http://www.youtube.com/user/ssracer02 · Post by **ssracer** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:40 pm

I don't see how they can regulate a round limit at sport shooting

Post by **Marcus** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:42 pm

Sounds like ignorance of the law. You aren't hunting.

Post by **WLJ** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:47 pm

Many game wardens in Ky will even tell you the hunting magazine limit is 5 rounds when the law says 10. In other words, they don't know.

BTW: Is there a bag limit on clays? :llama:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ssracer02 · Post by **ssracer** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:53 pm

I hope you had tags for all those clays

Post by **Rem700** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:04 pm

He's wrong.

Post by **ProCroation** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:05 pm

Anyone got a KRS statute I can show him since I'm still here?

Post by **jackalo626** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:06 pm

Rem700 wrote:He's wrong.

this.

Post by **WLJ** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:06 pm

ProCroation wrote:Anyone got a KRS statute I can show him since I'm still here?

That's his job.

Post by **jackalo626** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:07 pm

ProCroation wrote:Anyone got a KRS statute I can show him since I'm still here?

no point in arguing with him, you won't change his mind.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ssracer02 · Post by **ssracer** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:13 pm

I doubt there is a statute for shooting clay pigeons

Post by **WLJ** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:15 pm

Bet he would freak out if he saw me put 25 minishells into my KSG, 12 in each tube (2 tubes) plus 1 in the chamber.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ssracer02 · Post by **ssracer** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:17 pm

http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/kar/301/002/172.htm

This is in relation to deer hunting

Section 3. Hunter Restrictions. (1) A deer hunter shall not:
(a) Take a deer except during daylight hours;
(b) Use dogs, except leashed tracking dogs to recover a wounded deer;
(c) Take a deer that is swimming;
(d) From a vehicle, boat, or on horseback, take a deer, except that a hunter with a disabled hunting exemption permit issued by the department may use a stationary vehicle as a hunting platform; and
(e) Possess or use a decoy or call powered by electricity from any source.
(2) A deer hunter shall not take a deer with any device except a firearm, crossbow, or archery equipment as authorized by Section 5 of this administrative regulation.
(3) A person shall not use any of the following items to take a deer:
(a) Rimfire ammunition;
(b) A fully automatic firearm;
(c) A firearm with a magazine capacity greater than ten (10) rounds;
(d) Full metal jacketed ammunition;
(e) Tracer bullet ammunition;
(f) A shotshell containing more than one (1) projectile;
(g) An arrow or crossbow bolt without a broadhead;
(h) A broadhead smaller than seven-eighths (7/8) inch wide;
(i) A barbed broadhead;
(j) A crossbow without a working safety device;
(k) A chemically treated arrow;
(l) An arrow with a chemical attachment;
(m) Multiple projectile ammunition; or
(n) Any weapon that is not consistent with the appropriate season established in Section 5 of this administrative regulation.

Post by **WLJ** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:19 pm

WLJ wrote:Many game wardens in Ky will even tell you the hunting magazine limit is 5 rounds when the law says 10. In other words, they don't know.

BTW: Is there a bag limit on clays?

Just want to clarify I was referring to the rifle mag limit in deer hunting

Post by **ProCroation** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:27 pm

I can dig it. Just thought I'd try to inform him.

Post by **Frailer** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:14 pm

WLJ wrote:
ProCroation wrote:Anyone got a KRS statute I can show him since I'm still here?
That's his job.

This.

You're not going to find a statute that states there is no limit to the number of rounds you can load into your shotgun when you're not hunting.

If he wants to charge you, he's going to need to find the law he's talking about. Which doesn't exist.

Post by **ProCroation** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:47 pm

His friend who was on the firing line just to the left of him said...

"He knows the law so you best believe him"

to which the off duty cop added

"I am the law...so trust me"

that's when I said I didn't give a shit about it enough to stop shooting. It's a family staple. He kept apologizing and saying he doesn't personally have a problem with it...says the neighbor warden does and has enforced it on others leaving this annual get together. It couldn't have been my family that got cited. It would have been a hot topic already. I didn't bother arguing. I just moved to his left on the firing line and knocked him out every round I could by picking off his clays that broke into big enough pieces to hit.

Post by **jackalo626** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:28 am

ProCroation wrote:
"I am the law...so trust me"

Was his name Judge Dredd?

http://www.youtube.com/user/ssracer02 · Post by **ssracer** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:50 am

jackalo626 wrote:
ProCroation wrote:
"I am the law...so trust me"

Was his name Judge Dredd?

This

Post by **ProCroation** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:30 am

Haha. Nope. Not Dredd. :llama:

However, he was of Bullitt County pd.

Post by **ProCroation** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:31 am

Which might explain the ignorance of the law :llama:

Post by **Marcus** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:34 am

ProCroation wrote:Haha. Nope. Not Dredd. However, he was of Bullitt County pd.

For those of you OGs, this ought to ring a few bells:

LE

Post by **guncrank1** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:57 am

Well you are both wrong .....

KRS state that when shooting knockout clays , you must hold the shotgun over your head or put the buttstock on your nut sack, women are allowed a variance.
And you must shout "shit" instead of pull and you must wear clown shoes and a red clown nose.

Post by **guncrank1** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:04 am

BTW the shotshell limit is three for small game and birds.

Post by **Toecutter1978** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:07 am

I wonder how do you cook a clay pigeon, I bet their tasty broiled.

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