Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

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Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by Ian » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:44 pm

Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.

Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.0 0 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.

Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and Local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year.
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has 9,631 .00.

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year.
Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc..

Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month..

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same elementary school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches, while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age, Joe Legal's kids may not get into a State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State Schools through his taxes, while Jose Illegal's kids "go to the head of the class" because they are a minority.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Do you get it, now?

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by JustShootIt » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:59 pm

So true...
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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by jmeister » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:56 pm

"Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance"

Joe Legal can't fucking drive

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by SNL » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:15 am

Joe legal votes once for ron paul

Joe illegal votes 5x for bammie cakes

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by Tyler » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:21 am

Joe Legal probably voted for Obama and lives outside of his means without a realistic budget.
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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by SNL » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:15 am

long as ima live ima live illegal

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by kyswede » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:20 am

Interesting but math is wrong. $52,000 - 30%= $36,400
Numbers shown reflect 40% for taxes not 30%.
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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by WLJ » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:28 am

I'm changing my name to Jose.
There are criminals among us who are both homicidal and incorrigible. Their parents took a shot at civilizing them and failed. Their school teachers took a shot at them and failed. The odds are overwhelming that government welfare programs and penal institutions took a shot at them and failed. If it ever becomes your turn to take a shot at them, don’t fail.

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by Frailer » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:43 am

kyswede wrote:Interesting but math is wrong. $52,000 - 30%= $36,400
Numbers shown reflect 40% for taxes not 30%.
Don't go messing up a good rant with facts. ;)

FWIW, I don't pay $200 a month to insure *five* cars. And Joe is doing his taxes wrong.
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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by DDgunslinger » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:48 am

Frailer wrote:
kyswede wrote:Interesting but math is wrong. $52,000 - 30%= $36,400
Numbers shown reflect 40% for taxes not 30%.
Don't go messing up a good rant with facts.
It not suppose to be factual, it's an analogy. The working America citizen carries the burden, while illegal immigrants and welfare leeches flourish.

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by Frailer » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:19 pm

DDgunslinger wrote:It not suppose to be factual, it's an analogy. The working America citizen carries the burden, while illegal immigrants and welfare leeches flourish.
Illegal immigration is a very serious problem, and it's one we *must* deal with.

But the myth of the illegal victimizing the "working man" was cooked up by the guy who's screwing *both* of them.

That guy wears a suit, not a sombrero.

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by justang1997 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:24 pm

Frailer wrote:
DDgunslinger wrote:It not suppose to be factual, it's an analogy. The working America citizen carries the burden, while illegal immigrants and welfare leeches flourish.
Illegal immigration is a very serious problem, and it's one we *must* deal with.

But the myth of the illegal victimizing the "working man" was cooked up by the guy who's screwing *both* of them.

That guy wears a suit, not a sombrero.
not sure I'd agree with that 100%
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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by DDgunslinger » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:27 pm

Frailer wrote:
DDgunslinger wrote:It not suppose to be factual, it's an analogy. The working America citizen carries the burden, while illegal immigrants and welfare leeches flourish.
Illegal immigration is a very serious problem, and it's one we *must* deal with.

But the myth of the illegal victimizing the "working man" was cooked up by the guy who's screwing *both* of them.

That guy wears a suit, not a sombrero.
Um.... Considering I wrote a 20 page research paper on our illegal immigration problem and the financial burden it causes this country for a class a couple years back, I will have to politely disagree.

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by Frailer » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:31 pm

I'm not sure I agree with it *100%* either.

But if you want to find the crooks in a system, follow the money.

For example, who's the guy who's paying Jose $15/hour under the table, and what's he getting out of the deal? *There's* the bad guy in this little morality tale.

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by kokopelli » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:45 pm

I did a paper on 'Anchor Babies' in a sociology class.
That'll make you sick- there were hospitals that went out of business in Texas due to being a free Mexican clinic...

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Re: Joe Legal V Joe Illegal

Post by Toddstang » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:38 pm

Just seeing all the dammed illegals in my area building new homes makes my blood boil. I know a few people who went to trade/vocational schools to learn masonary, pipe fitting, etc...
After they learned their trades they made dammed good money through the 80's and 90's. Now days, those guys went to learn other skills, and trade jobs because the guy in the suit pays the illegals $8 an hour vs. $22 an hour for the guys from here.
Every time I see them on a roof jamming to the mariachi music blasting from their white van, I want to yell "GREEN CARD!" just to see how many go flying off the roof.
Yea, I know I cant blame them, its our fucked up system of government that needs to do something.

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