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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Rem700 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:59 am

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Speaking of Il
Their gun registration is going well
According to Illinois State Police data, 2,415,481 gun owners call the Land o’ Lincoln home. Earlier this year, Gov. J.B. Pritzker signed the so-called Protect Illinois Communities Act into law which banned the most many of the most popular guns used for self-defense. Under the law, existing owners of these now verboten firearms must register their guns by January 1, 2024 or face felony charges.

Four weeks into the gun registration window, exactly 2430 of those FOID holders have registered their guns, accessories, or .50 caliber firearms. That works out to .1006%, or about one in a thousand.

What’s even more remarkable is the number of FOID holders choosing to comply has fallen with each passing week.
Granted, not all FOID holders own the guns that are now banned under the law. However, given the popularity of America’s favorite rifle, the AR-15, not to mention semi-auto shotguns, sales numbers suggest that the majority of them have at least one semi-auto rifle or shotgun in their collection. Or perhaps (gasp!) a handgun with a threaded barrel.
We Will Not Comply: Only .1% of Illinois Gun Owners Have Registered Their Newly Banned Guns So Far
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/we-wi ... ns-so-far/
The dumbasses can't even do simple math. That's 0.001006%.
Math is racist
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Post by WLJ » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:01 pm

Okay folks, how about this?
Eric Lipton
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NYT: Army Ammunition Plant Is Tied to Mass Shootings Across the U.S.

The site was built for the military, but commercial sales are booming with little public accountability.
https://twitter.com/EricLiptonNYT/statu ... 1718696204

The main article. I think it's suppose to behind a paywall, maybe, but it came right up for me

Army Ammunition Plant Is Tied to Mass Shootings Across the U.S.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/11/us/a ... roid-share
The initials stand for the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant. Built during World War II, the federal site, in Independence, Mo., has made nearly all the rifle cartridges used by the U.S. military since it pulled out of Vietnam.

In recent years, the factory has also pumped billions of rounds of military-grade ammunition into the commercial market, an investigation by The New York Times found, leaving the “LC” signature scattered across crime scenes, including the sites of some of the nation’s most heinous mass shootings.

The plant, operated by a private contractor with Army oversight, is now one of the country’s biggest manufacturers of commercial rounds for the popular AR-15, and it remains so even as the United States supplies ammunition to Ukraine.
The rest of the article basically go on about how the US govt is provides ammo for murder using mass murders to sell more ammo.
It's pretty long winded, which is typical NYT, and that's probably an understatement.
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:02 pm

Bearing Arms has a break down of the above NYT article if you don't want to lose brain cells reading it.

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023 ... mmo-n77217
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Toddstang » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:33 pm

It's all so tiresome.
The left never stops.
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Post by WLJ » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:57 pm

Would ban gas operated guns among other things.
In an interview this week with the Portland Press Herald, King said the GOSAFE Act is a more effective approach because gun manufacturers can get around bans on specific weapons by slightly altering guns and building new models. King said the approach taken by the GOSAFE Act took years of work collaborating with Sen. Martin Heinrich, D-New Mexico, the bill’s other primary sponsor, to close loopholes to ensure that gun manufacturers would have to comply.
Sen. King unveils legislation to restrict deadliness of assault weapons
https://www.pressherald.com/2023/11/30/ ... t-weapons/

Democrats introducing bill regulating mechanisms of rapid-firing weapons
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/433 ... g-weapons/

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BREAKING: LIVE Announcement of Major Gun Control Bill To Ban Gas Operated Rifles
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Post by WLJ » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:09 pm

The GOSAFE Act regulates firearms based on the inherently dangerous and unusual lethality of their internal mechanisms, as opposed to focusing on cosmetic features that manufacturers can easily modify.
If enacted, the bill would regulate the sale, transfer, and manufacture of gas-operated semi-automatic weapons by:
Establishing a list of prohibited firearms;
Preventing unlawful modifications of permissible firearms;
Mandating that future gas-operated designs are approved before manufacture; and
Preventing unlawful firearm self-assembly and manufacturing.
Exemptions include:

.22 caliber rimfire or less firearms
Bolt action rifles
Semi-automatic shotguns
Recoil-operated handguns
Any rifle with a permanently fixed magazine of 10 rounds or less
Any shotgun with a permanently fixed magazine of 10 rounds or less
Any handgun with a permanently fixed magazine of 15 rounds or less
Protects Americans’ Second Amendment Right

The GOSAFE Act protects Americans’ constitutional right to own a gun based on a firearm’s established use for self-defense, hunting or sporting purposes.
The GOSAFE Act accomplishes this by including exemptions based on maximum ammunition capacity according to a firearm’s individual class: a rifle, shotgun, or handgun.
This capacity must be “permanently fixed” meaning the firearm cannot accept a detachable, high-capacity magazine that would increase the number of rounds that can be fired before reloading and make reloading easier.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/majo ... osafe-act/
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by ssracer » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:59 pm

Ok, who’s gonna break out the short recoil rifle designs…


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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:01 pm

ssracer wrote:
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Ok, who’s gonna break out the short recoil rifle designs…


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And pretty much any blowback and delayed blowbacks which includes G3/CETME/C93s and most PCCs.
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Post by WLJ » Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:22 pm

He said they've worked on this bill for years.

Note the above and smooth bore rifle in the chart
Also asking if the firearm is gas-operated then if you answer yes it then asks is it recoil-operated.

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Post by WLJ » Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:22 pm

Years!
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Elkins45 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:10 pm

An AR-15 is a breech loaded firearm. Guess it’s OK. They didn’t even spell breech correctly.

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:11 pm

Elkins45 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:10 pm
An AR-15 is a breech loaded firearm. Guess it’s OK. They didn’t even spell breech correctly.
But they spend YEARS! working on this.
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Post by WLJ » Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:16 pm

Yeah, if they exempt breach (breech) and muzzle loading firearms that makes the evil AR-15 and pretty much every other firearm exempt
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Post by ssracer » Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:23 pm

I’m sure they mean like Remington rolling blocks, but yeah. It’s like they learned a new gun term “gas operated” and then just went ape shit retarded and threw every other gun term they could find into the bill to try and sound smart and reasonable.

You know, like the shoulder thing that goes up.


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Post by WLJ » Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:48 pm

And I just noticed they want to make make unlawful modifications illegal as well as make "machine gun" conversion devices that are already illegal illegal

The more you examine this thing the dumber it gets.
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Post by ssracer » Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:13 pm

WLJ wrote:And I just noticed they want to make make unlawful modifications illegal as well as make "machine gun" conversion devices that are already illegal illegal

The more you examine this thing the dumber it gets.
And making your own firearms


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ssracer wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:13 pm
WLJ wrote:And I just noticed they want to make make unlawful modifications illegal as well as make "machine gun" conversion devices that are already illegal illegal

The more you examine this thing the dumber it gets.
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Which is currently legal, well except in some areas. The two items above are already illegal but they want to make them illegal illegal or something.
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:47 am

Greenburg's wish list

Louisville Mayor Confident Kentucky Will See Gun Control in 2024
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/202 ... l-3-n78910
Topping the list of Louisville’s legislative agenda are measures Greenberg argues will improve public safety, including gun reform.

City officials are asking the General Assembly for the power to require background checks for all gun sales, waiting periods for first-time gun buyers and to create red flag laws. They also want local governments to have the power to limit concealed carry for people under the age of 25.

It seems more likely, however, that Kentucky lawmakers will do the opposite. In 2019, Kentucky stopped requiring permits to conceal carry. And just last year, the General Assembly passed a “Second Amendment sanctuary” bill, banning police from cooperating with any federal enforcement of a gun or ammunition ban.
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Post by iron369 » Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:22 pm

WLJ wrote:Greenburg's wish list

Louisville Mayor Confident Kentucky Will See Gun Control in 2024
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/202 ... l-3-n78910
Topping the list of Louisville’s legislative agenda are measures Greenberg argues will improve public safety, including gun reform.

City officials are asking the General Assembly for the power to require background checks for all gun sales, waiting periods for first-time gun buyers and to create red flag laws. They also want local governments to have the power to limit concealed carry for people under the age of 25.

It seems more likely, however, that Kentucky lawmakers will do the opposite. In 2019, Kentucky stopped requiring permits to conceal carry. And just last year, the General Assembly passed a “Second Amendment sanctuary” bill, banning police from cooperating with any federal enforcement of a gun or ammunition ban.
He’s pushing for the state to change the law so that Louisville can get stronger gun control than the rest of the state. How ludicrous to think the county in which a firearm is purchased makes it more dangerous.
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Post by WLJ » Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:30 pm

iron369 wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:22 pm
WLJ wrote:Greenburg's wish list

Louisville Mayor Confident Kentucky Will See Gun Control in 2024
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/202 ... l-3-n78910
Topping the list of Louisville’s legislative agenda are measures Greenberg argues will improve public safety, including gun reform.

City officials are asking the General Assembly for the power to require background checks for all gun sales, waiting periods for first-time gun buyers and to create red flag laws. They also want local governments to have the power to limit concealed carry for people under the age of 25.

It seems more likely, however, that Kentucky lawmakers will do the opposite. In 2019, Kentucky stopped requiring permits to conceal carry. And just last year, the General Assembly passed a “Second Amendment sanctuary” bill, banning police from cooperating with any federal enforcement of a gun or ammunition ban.
He’s pushing for the state to change the law so that Louisville can get stronger gun control than the rest of the state. How ludicrous to think the county in which a firearm is purchased makes it more dangerous.
Fischer did the same, calling for the state to pass a law so that Louisville/Jefferson is allowed to have it's own gun laws. So far the state has told both Fischer and now Greenburg to pound sand.
He's been watching cities like Indianapolis where the mayor there said screw the state and started enacting city gun laws separate from the state. So far Indiana has stood it's ground on the matter with the new laws being unenforceable. But they keep trying. Something to keep an eye on.
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Post by ssracer » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:26 am

Meanwhile Louisville judges just letting 19 year olds connected to shootings with EPOs and multiple domestic violence convictions walk without bond. But yes, more gun laws are what we need. GTFO

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by rustynuts » Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:24 am

iron369 wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:22 pm
WLJ wrote:Greenburg's wish list

Louisville Mayor Confident Kentucky Will See Gun Control in 2024
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/202 ... l-3-n78910
Topping the list of Louisville’s legislative agenda are measures Greenberg argues will improve public safety, including gun reform.

City officials are asking the General Assembly for the power to require background checks for all gun sales, waiting periods for first-time gun buyers and to create red flag laws. They also want local governments to have the power to limit concealed carry for people under the age of 25.

It seems more likely, however, that Kentucky lawmakers will do the opposite. In 2019, Kentucky stopped requiring permits to conceal carry. And just last year, the General Assembly passed a “Second Amendment sanctuary” bill, banning police from cooperating with any federal enforcement of a gun or ammunition ban.
He’s pushing for the state to change the law so that Louisville can get stronger gun control than the rest of the state. How ludicrous to think the county in which a firearm is purchased makes it more dangerous.
And yet, in his city an underage person with an EPO against him and several domestic abuse charges takes a gun into Waffle House, shoots someone and is let to walk free until his court date.....

DUMB MOTHER FUCKERS! ENFORCE THE LAWS YOU HAVE AND YOU WON'T NEED NEW ONES!

Frigging morons. All they are interested in is controlling EVERYONE. They couldn't care less about the general public's safety.
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Rem700 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:38 am

First they pass the stupid bill, then they change the definition of basic language. You all forget how this works.
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