S&W makes a single stack M&P with no ext safety available

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:24 pm

before Glock.

http://www.safetysolutionsacademy.com/s ... stack-9mm/

Post by **Bama** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:34 pm

I personally have no issue with an external thumb safety. All it takes is training and repetition to make a habit of flipping the switch when pulling from holster. I'll take either version of this though

Post by **jackalo626** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:35 pm

It's only before Glock because I've said it a thousand times, Glock doesn't want to hurt their double stack sales and with them flying off the shelf they will not put out that option. They know people want it and they also know most people will only buy one.

Post by **jackalo626** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:35 pm

Bama wrote:I personally have no issue with an external thumb safety. All it takes is training and repetition to make a habit of flipping the switch when pulling from holster. I'll take either version of this though

or you could just never activate it.

Post by **nemo** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:38 pm

Glock could have OWNED the market across the board. It wouldn't have hurt the sales in total, just distributed them across the whole line. I believe a missed opportunity.

Post by **Toddstang** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:44 pm

My Shield has a safety?
Well I'll be dammed!!
Just noticed.

Post by **Bama** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:54 pm

Toddstang wrote:My Shield has a safety?
Well I'll be dammed!!
Just noticed.

Hahaha

Post by **jackalo626** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:31 pm

nemo wrote:Glock could have OWNED the market across the board. It wouldn't have hurt the sales in total, just distributed them across the whole line. I believe a missed opportunity.

can you imagine the threads they have seen, calls they have taken, letters they have read requesting single stack 9mm? They are not blind to the fact it is wanted but existing tooling not costing them, packaging, marketing, etc that is already in place for them to sell the double stacks clearly they have no need to add another line. If they sell a double stack 9mm then the fact is that the common shooter will buy only one and it will hurt the production of the double stacks.

Post by **jackalo626** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:34 pm

nemo wrote:Glock could have OWNED the market across the board. It wouldn't have hurt the sales in total, just distributed them across the whole line. I believe a missed opportunity.

Don't get me wrong I understand what you are saying but I think it is deeper as in hurting the sales of their own spare parts, holsters, etc. there has to be several reasons not to do the single stack though I haven't seen them say it openly.

Post by **WLJ** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:35 pm

What's a glock?

Post by **SNL** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:42 pm

they spent all their development money on such groundbreaking innovations as putting a g36 slide on the g30

Post by **SNL** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:43 pm

g36 lol

Post by **jackalo626** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:43 pm

SNL wrote:they spent all their development money on such groundbreaking innovations as putting a g36 slide on the g30

and the 380 people asked for 6 years ago

Post by **WLJ** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:45 pm

SNL wrote:they spent all their development money on such groundbreaking innovations as putting a g36 slide on the g30

He's too busy making babies with his nearly 1/3 his age wife.

Post by **jackalo626** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:48 pm

WLJ wrote:
SNL wrote:they spent all their development money on such groundbreaking innovations as putting a g36 slide on the g30
He's too busy making babies with his nearly 1/3 his age wife.

she is in it for love!

Post by **SNL** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:49 pm

jackalo626 wrote:
SNL wrote:they spent all their development money on such groundbreaking innovations as putting a g36 slide on the g30
and the 380 people asked for 6 years ago

rofl. at least it dosnt have a safety or mag disconnect

Post by **SNL** » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:58 pm

horse hats

http://www.ghpc.at/uploads/pics/PuckGer ... ter_01.jpg

Post by **guncrank1** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:51 am

Wow S&W made a P9......

Post by **jackalo626** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:43 pm

guncrank1 wrote:Wow S&W made a P9......

win!

Post by **Frailer** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:08 pm

Bama wrote:I personally have no issue with an external thumb safety. All it takes is training and repetition to make a habit of flipping the switch when pulling from holster. I'll take either version of this though

If I had a nickel for every time I've seen a guy who's drawn and fired a 1911 thousands of times until it became "automatic" fail to do so when the buzzer went off at a match I'd be able to buy a six pack of good beer.

Not saying external safeties are inherently bad. They provide an extra layer of stupid insurance (and we *all* get stupid once in a while). Nevertheless, this security comes at a cost--as all security always does.

Post by **RecoilSensitive** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:50 am

I didnt notice the safety on the original sheild

the regular m&p dont have one do they?

Post by **irishrob** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:52 am

RecoilSensitive wrote:I didnt notice the safety on the original sheild

the regular m&p dont have one do they?

Some do. Mine doesnt have a safety or mag safety

Post by **WLJ** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:58 am

RecoilSensitive wrote:I didnt notice the safety on the original sheild

the regular m&p dont have one do they?

Optional

Post by **nemo** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:19 am

RecoilSensitive wrote:I didnt notice the safety on the original sheild

the regular m&p dont have one do they?

kalifornia and mASSachusetts compliance BS.

Post by **RecoilSensitive** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:08 am

ah okay.

i like the shield and since glock is dragging feet may have to look into one

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